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Anne Elk · 01-12-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by mmm3587
Nope, no H. It was a threesome reference.

She's also very loyal, and we've talked about the sex, previous partners and extra-relationship sex issues. That stuff's not a concern. I trust her about all that.

Sure, she's told you about the stuff she remembers, but what about the missing 'club' hours?

bold_n_brazen · 01-12-2005, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by mmm3587
Nope, no H. It was a threesome reference.

She's also very loyal, and we've talked about the sex, previous partners and extra-relationship sex issues. That stuff's not a concern. I trust her about all that.

So you trust her about everything except money and self-control?

You and I would not get along well together.

Did you just call me Coltrane? · 01-12-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
". . . because I sure as hell didn't ask to be a 12-inch pianist!"

Please tip your waitress.

Tyrone Slothrop · 01-12-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Its OK when people embellish. One buddy of mine admits embellishing. He says "Life's not interesting enough. I add." He is a really good storyteller. Funny motherfucker.

BUT, making up an entire story or taking a joke and making it a remembrance is creepy. It makes you feel embarrassed for the person telling the story.

I used to work with a pathological storyteller (by which I mean, liar). For reasons that were secrets between him and his notional therapist, he would tell stories that were wholly fabricated. Helpfully, I figured out before too long that he would preface his fictitious stories with the exclamation, "no shit." Before I knew him well, I would try to challenge him or ask him for more facts, and it never went well. The guy just had a deep-seated need to make shit up, and part of that need involved refusing to acknowledge that this is what he was doing. Best just not to call him on it at all.

Then again, he wasn't my brother, and I didn't have to work with him long before he quit in a huff.

mmm3587 · 01-12-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by Anne Elk
Sure, she's told you about the stuff she remembers, but what about the missing 'club' hours?

The big time was at a club; she got stuck in a part that was closing and had to go outside and get back in. That happened to others in our party, too, and I know that's actually what happened.

Another time, from a bar near my house, she just left and took a cab way across town to her house, and then called me from a pay phone like two hours after I last saw her because she had left her keys at the bar, where we still were.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 01-12-2005, 02:37 PM

With all this discussion of Mmmmxxxx's good time girl, I find myself remembering the times when I accompanied a young lass as she descended into a hell of drugs, sex and phsychosis, ending in overdose, the rehab clinic, and ultimately a nunnery. Let me say this: the crash can be a lot of fun, too, and the period following the crash (luckily not fatal in the situation I was dealing with) full of intimate and profound experiences. Such extraordinary and aweful events help remind us how sweet and precious this life is.

sebastian_dangerfield · 01-12-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by yadda yadda yadda
If you are going to resent supporting a drunk junkie with massive debt, get out.

Damn. THAT is how you repeat the question asked as a statement.

Sidd Finch · 01-12-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Don't get hitched to her, but ride this puppy until its knees break.

In percentage terms you are a really crappy poster.

But every once in awhile, you really nail the issue. So to speak.

Sidd Finch · 01-12-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by ABBAKiss
No. Break up with her and give her ex-Mr. Kiss's number.

Is this because you love him and still want him to have fun, because you are hoping to fuck him in a threesome, or because you are trying to fuck up his life by hooking him up with a debt-laden drug addict?

mmm3587 · 01-12-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
You and I would not get along well together.

Maybe, maybe not. It's not like I'm giving her shit about all this stuff all the time (in reality, it's been a topic of discussion, but not a problem at all); it just concerns me. All the cards are on the table, and I know about them. I just have to consider whether they're really a problem for me or not.

Plus, if you really think that you don't have to be careful about how big lines are, then all your talk about coke is obviously just a made-up cry for attention. Because that is how people OD and die, and even the people I know who are much more into it than I am are pretty careful about how big and how much.

sebastian_dangerfield · 01-12-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
There is never any reason to ask "isn't that line a little big?"

Yeh there is. You'll get that "heart attack" panic attack moment one of these days, and it will cure you of that shit.

Diane_Keaton · 01-12-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by mmm3587 I could post this as anon, but I'm anon anyway, and I figure that everybody will get off on making fun of me. ... she is very irresponsible about money and still has massive debt from college and grad school (lawyer-style debt, and she doesn't and probably never will make anywhere near enough money to pay it off quickly), she has all kinds of mental illness in her family and all kinds of crazy stuff in her past and she takes a truly impressive amount of (legitimately prescribed) prescription drugs. She also tends to occasionally drink to absolute drunkedness to the point where she gets lost somewhere in a club or a party and I won't see her for hours because she was off somewhere without a concern in the world...

She sounds fun and carefree to me. Is she able to act this way and still come across as charming and fey? Or by 4 am, does she turn into some ugly Meth monster crying all her Goth-ish black mascara into dark streaks that run down her white-makeup-ed face? I'm thinking here of someone who evokes Marilyn Manson. But if she is able to act this way and still evoke the irresponsible yet charming (albeit 21st century) Audrey Hepburn ala Breakfast at Tiffany's, then she's a keeper. And who gives a crap about debt owed the federal government. Fuck them.

But just to make sure she is fun outside the club atmosphere, I'd take her on a hiking or camping weekend. See if she is able to leave the accoutrements behind for good clean living.

Hmmmn. Steaks cooked right on a smoky campfire; with potatoes veggies wrapped in tin foil and cooked right in the fire.

notcasesensitive · 01-12-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Anne Elk
If she is not interested in moving the relationship to the next level then no harm no foul. However, if her current housing situation becomes unstable you may find yourself with a 'roommate'. The longer the relationship lasts the harder it may be to extricate yourself.

If she hasn't grown out of her drunk junkie free-spending ways by now, she never will.

It sounds like she is a drink or pill away from turning into a stalker. If you stick it out for the sex, be careful.

A few follow up questions:
Have any of your friends commented on her club disappearances?
Are you sure the pills are 'Xanax'?

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Originally posted by Anne Elk
Sure, she's told you about the stuff she remembers, but what about the missing 'club' hours?

Mental note. Don't get into a relationship with Anne Elk.

What seems stalker-like about her? She seems more like an anti-stalker (what, with the disappearing).

I can relate with mmm's predicament to a degree because among my partying friends, I am the most responsible one (which, if you know me, is not saying much). Actually the girl he describes is much like one of my good friends. I've never taken it upon myself to tell her the ways she is acting irresponsibly, but there has never been a reason (in my opinion) to do so. I have had friends who went over the line, but they sort of got phased out of my life as a result. Not because I was harsh with them, but because they felt uncomfortable enough around me (the "uptight" lawyer of the group) to not involve me in the really bad times. I stopped making myself one of the people that they might call on a four-day bender or start pounding on the door of at 3:45 a.m. on a Tuesday. Typically that sort of irresponsibility seeks out its own.

And, no, I haven't gotten any hot girl-on-girl action from mmmgf-like my friend. And she is not even one of my friends who has offered it (though I have had the offers).

ThurgreedMarshall · 01-12-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by mmm3587
Another time, from a bar near my house, she just left and took a cab way across town to her house, and then called me from a pay phone like two hours after I last saw her because she had left her keys at the bar, where we still were.

Wow.

I'm assuming you bought this story?

TM

Sidd Finch · 01-12-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by mmm3587
Nope, no H. It was a threesome reference.

She's also very loyal, and we've talked about the sex, previous partners and extra-relationship sex issues. That stuff's not a concern. I trust her about all that.

Yeah, because if you can't trust a drug addict who you fear will ruin your life with debt, who can you trust?

Don't get more serious with this one. Enjoy the fun times and the sex, if you can do that without getting more serious. Stop trying to be the "responsible one". If she wants a big line of coke, let her have it.

The minute she talks about moving in together or asks you to cover her credit card bill "just this month," run for the hills.