Politics As Usual

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Let me put it in terms that will make a Republican cry: $200,000,000,000.00.

To put that in some context, if you stacked that much money in pennies, you'd have a stack of pennies 20 trillion pennies tall --more than half the distance to the sun.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Now that we know that Hussein didn't have WMD and ties to AQ, why would we need 200,000 troops on his borders indefinitely? His military couldn't have invaded a wet paper bag.

Hint to you non-historians, the Kuwaitis think otherwise.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Not Me
Hint to you non-historians, the Kuwaitis think otherwise.

So do the Saudis and the Egyptians

[Tyrone Slothrop]

etfdp

[sgtclub]

http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/381249|top|06-04-2004::14:06|reuters.html

MINNEAPOLIS (Reuters) - Democrat John Kerry courted the traditionally Republican veterans' vote on Friday by suggesting that many in the U.S. military would prefer him as commander in chief over President Bush.

A decorated Navy lieutenant in the Vietnam War, Kerry told veterans who are organizing other veterans across the country that active duty personnel were privately telling him, "We need a change."

"You'd be amazed at the number of active duty personnel who are coming up at events around the country, greeting me in ropelines or coming to rallies and telling me how important it is for us to stand up and fight for those who are not able to speak out for themselves right now for obvious reasons," Kerry said.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
-- more than half the distance to the sun.

Thank God you went back and added this. Until then, I just thought you were trying to blend humor and math again, and I've told you that it never works until after the 3rd glass.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by bilmore
The fact that anyone could not latch onto it with a degree of fervor is what's so dismaying to me. We're debating the efficiencies of stopping the Holocaust. That's the philosophy that kept us from Rwanda, to our eternal dishonor. To ignore such a need is, to me, antithetical to one's own humanity, and I cannot make myself believe that the majority, as you term them, doesn't share that basic value. Thus, to me, it has to be a wilfull decision to ignore the slaughter. And the only motive I can see is the political one.

I respect your position on this, because you were saying this sort of thing long before people were questioning the other reasons for the invasion. But I read the paragraph above and I think that it could easily have been written in '92, after Bush* didn't support the Shi'ites after calling for them to rise up. Did you decry Bush's political motives back then when Saddam mowed them down? Or did you excuse it as being based in other policy objectives abroad and here at home?

I've got to feel that a not insubstantial portion of the Sh'ites mentioned in that article died believing that we would help them in that uprising. George Clooney told me that in a movie I saw once.

* the first one, Hank.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Let me put it in terms that will make a Republican cry: $200,000,000,000.00.

Flip this on its head. Since when has any Democrat cared about spending money?

[Atticus Grinch]

I thought we had seen a quantum leap forward in socking technology with Lawtalkers' introduction of a "log out" button and the ability to reuse the same Hotmail account to verify a valid address.

I never imagined it would be possible for a right-wing parody sock to actually become corporeal, incarnate, and, indeed, tenured at Boalt.

• First, we need to impress upon the Boalt community that a new day is dawning. Unfortunately, sleep deprivation will have diminished returns on our students, since they already are inured to the procedure from one too many cram sessions. If we are to undo years of liberal indoctrination at Cal, we must employ some of the tactics we refined in Afghanistan and Iraq. Since their hormones are raging anyway, I suggest a rigorous application of the more erotic punishments that have worked so well for us overseas. We could even tailor the humiliation to the curriculum; anyone who fails to recall the substance of Antonin Scalia's dissent in the recent sodomy ruling, for example, won't make the same mistake again after we school them in the art of anal violation.

"School them in the art of anal violation"? This guy sounds way cool. Now I really wish I'd gotten into Boalt.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
So do the Saudis and the Egyptians

The Kuwaitis and Saudis didn't need 200,000 of our troops protecting them. The Egyptians didn't need any, since Iraq would have had to come through Israel to get to them.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I don't see them as 2 different wars. II was a continuation/resolution of the what was left unresolved from I. Similarly, I see Iraq I and II as 1 long war with a 10 year break in between.

Is there a SOL on this? Remember we had a war with the French in canada, and if the extension takes lesser justification to kick off, we;ll i'm just saying...

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Flip this on its head. Since when has any Democrat cared about spending money?

Clinton balanced the budget. Face it, Slave: Mine is the party of fiscal responsibility now, and yours is the party of spending like a drunken sailor with a borrowed credit card.


A funnier response would have been to point out that the Democrats are crying that this money won't go to the teachers unions.


Shit. I'm really going to pay for bringing Clinton back into it.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

God DAMN my inability to distinguish between the edit and quote buttons

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The Egyptians didn't need any, since Iraq would have had to come through Israel to get to them.

Not if he went through SA

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
tenured at Boalt.

"School them in the art of anal violation"? This guy sounds way cool. Now I really wish I'd gotten into Boalt.

My thoughts on the GC are - why? Purportedly it is to protect our soldiers, right? Name me a war in which our enemies abided by the GC.

Let's see, was it WWII with the Bataan Death March, etc. Nope.

Was it the Vietnam War? Hell nope.

Korea, Gulf War I??? Nope and nope.

Are we ever likely to fight a war against a country that would adhere to the GC? I guess if Canada invades maybe.