Politics As Usual

[SlaveNoMore]

Atticus Grinch
If I were elected President....

I will gladly raise my glass and lead a toast in your honor. Hail to the Chief, I say.

Then in return, I would hope for free passage to Edmonton.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
However, I also strongly feel that when a person ceases to hold the office of President, we should not call him or her "President _________." Let's go back to the honorable traditions of Washington, Jefferson, and Adams --- when you're in office, you're "Mr. President"; when you reenter private life, you're a citizen like the rest of us.

For once we agree. I extend the same sentiment to senators, governors, congress persons, as well.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I will gladly raise my glass and lead a toast in your honor. Hail to the Chief, I say.

Then in return, I would hope for free passage to Edmonton.

Free passage? I would order that the very best men and women in my Green Berets (renamed the "U.N. Auxiliary") get you drunk and frogmarch you there. By the time I'm done, the whole of Canada will look like a patriot militia.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by sgtclub
For once we agree.

That happens rarely, but more often than you'd expect. I just have the decency to keep my mouth shut about it, to spare us both the humiliation.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Remember, we're talking about a GOP consisting of people like Slave/Club/Bilmore, who will vote Mugabe for Pres. if he registers GOP and promises tax cuts, and people like Delay, who is the nation's most sought-after voter demographic because he's descended from people who stood on hills waiting for the Millenium, never waning in their faith that the Preacher's ability to predict the Second Coming is being better refined with each wrong prediction. It's perfect, really. Pandering to millenialist Christians = campaigning without accountability. An unfulfilled promise, to them, is proof of Satan's hold on the world, and motivates them to turn out in even greater numbers for the next election.

Nice rant!

However, Bilmore wouldn't do that. And Club would at least have the decency to feel kinda bad about it.

S_A_M

[Say_hello_for_me]

Another Jeezus in today (Sunday)'s WaPo:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun12.html

Regarding Russia, there are 173 deaths for every 100 births, and they are looking at 10% of their population being infected with AIDS in the very near future without western treatments.

I'm no AIDS activist (I'll spare you some of my darker thoughts on the subject), but I'm pretty sure even that evil preacher who thinks homosexuals "deserve" death or whatever would express sorrow at orphanages just for little kids dying of AIDS etc.

I guess this really just strikes me as a big "wow", something that is certain to have a significant impact on Russia (and thus the world) in the next few years, and something I honestly don't think I've heard before.

[SlaveNoMore]

Atticus Grinch
Remember, we're talking about a GOP consisting of people like Slave/Club/Bilmore, who will vote Mugabe for Pres. if he registers GOP and promises tax cuts, and people like Delay, ...

S_A_M

Nice rant!

However, Bilmore wouldn't do that. And Club would at least have the decency to feel kinda bad about it.

Thanks much.

[Not Me]

Anyone else see Bill Kristol on Fox News Sunday? Thought it was a pretty good idea, myself.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun11.html


This is an opinion piece by Scott Turow which appeared in WaPo today regarding the Padilla case. (i.e. the government's position on procedures and substance, and the Comey press conference on Padilla last week, while the Supreme Courtr is still considering the appeal.).

Anyone with a good memory will know that I am deeply troubled by this case and hope that the government's position crumbles to dust. If anyone is up for a meaningful (preferably bipartisan) discussion of the issues raised, that would be great.

S_A_M

[Penske_Account]

A purported al-Qaida statement, posted late Saturday on an Islamic Web site, included a passport-size photo of Paul Johnson Jr. and a Lockheed Martin business card bearing his name. The statement threatened to treat Johnson as U.S. troops treated Iraqi prisoners _ an apparent reference to abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

So they are going to put panties on his head?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun11.html


This is an opinion piece by Scott Turow which appeared in WaPo today regarding the Padilla case. (i.e. the government's position on procedures and substance, and the Comey press conference on Padilla last week, while the Supreme Courtr is still considering the appeal.).

Anyone with a good memory will know that I am deeply troubled by this case and hope that the government's position crumbles to dust. If anyone is up for a meaningful (preferably bipartisan) discussion of the issues raised, that would be great.

S_A_M

Well what troubles you? The fact that he's a citizen?

[sgtclub]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...238263,00.html

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by sgtclub
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...238263,00.html

One would think that if anyone qualifies as "enemy combatant," with the nebulous rights therein, he does.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
If anyone is up for a meaningful (preferably bipartisan) discussion of the issues raised, that would be great.

Originally posted by sgtclub
Well what troubles you? The fact that he's a citizen?

Good start.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
One would think that if anyone qualifies as "enemy combatant," with the nebulous rights therein, he does.

The "combatant" part seems like something of a stretch.