Politics As Usual

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Don't know if this has been posted:

According to the Economist, of the top ten US states in terms of average IQ, all but one voted for Gore in the last election. On the other hand, all of the bottom ten voted for Bush.


1. Connecticut (avg IQ: 113): Gore
2. Mass (111): Gore
New Jersey (111): Gore
4. New York (109): Gore
5. R.I. (107): Gore
6. Hawaii (106): Gore
7. Maryland (105): Gore
New Hampshire (105): Bush
9. Illinois (104): Gore
10. Delaware (103): Gore

40. Alabama (90): Bush
Louisiana (90): Bush
Montana (90): Bush
Oklahoma (90): Bush
S. Dakota (90): Bush
46. S. Carolina (89): Bush
Wyoming (89): Bush
48. Idaho (87): Bush
Utah (87): Bush
50. Mississippi (85): Bush

I'm willing to bet within any of the Gore states, those voting for bush had a higher average IQ than those voting for Gore.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
In that context, your idiosyncratic use of "Islamics," which to date has managed to produce an easy "out" for you when you're called on your repeated failures to distinguish between Muslims and Islamicists, is starting to look more and more like a slur.

I agree. I recommend that the slur be shortened to "Slamis" to sound more slurlike. It's also easier to spell than "camel schtuppers."

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I'm willing to bet within any of the Gore states, those voting for bush had a higher average IQ than those voting for Gore.

Hold on...I must climb down a few steps of the IQ ladder to understand this.

Fuck that. Too far.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Any release would be outrageous. What part of "strategic" don't the dems understand? There is nothing to suggest that prices reflect a temporary shock. Demand for oil is high; production of oil is flat. Release from teh SPR will, at best, temporarily reduce those prices, only to see them bounce up again when the SPR is depleted (or we stop discharging from it). At that point, we'll be in a worse position to respond to a genuine shock, such as a blown up suez canal or something.

Haven't been following this one too closely, but that article seems to indicate two different SPR policies are being proposed. The first is release of reserve oil into the market, which i agree would be shortsighted. The second (and the one that the article attributes to Kerry) is suspending further purchases until prices subside. That to me seems highly logical, both by avoiding paying the premium prices dictated by the current seller's market when the oil is not required to meet current needs and by reducing demand for the oil that is on the market. Am I missing something? Or are you decrying the former and not the latter?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Thanks, JFK. I know it's not your fault--you don't own any SUVs after all.

He doesn't own any private jets, either. His family owns them.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I'm willing to bet within any of the Gore states, those voting for bush had a higher average IQ than those voting for Gore.

The same is not true of the voters who decided the election, although your guys' average was dragged down by Thomas.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Hold on...I must climb down a few steps of the IQ ladder to understand this.

Fuck that. Too far.

Exactly. Most of what gore won was the inner cities, where IQ is on average low, either because of cultural bias in the test, or because you guys have fucked up on social policy. the blue/red imbalance is bad at a state level- look at it on county level and you'll see just how isolated you really are.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
Haven't been following this one too closely, but that article seems to indicate two different SPR policies are being proposed. The first is release of reserve oil into the market, which i agree would be shortsighted. The second (and the one that the article attributes to Kerry) is suspending further purchases until prices subside. That to me seems highly logical, both by avoiding paying the premium prices dictated by the current seller's market when the oil is not required to meet current needs and by reducing demand for the oil that is on the market. Am I missing something? Or are you decrying the former and not the latter?

I have no cite, but I am remembering Kerry calling for release of reserves into market, along with the halt to replenishment. Am I incorrect on this?

(Besides, as we get closer to the war with SA, we're going to need those reserves topped up.)

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Exactly. Most of what gore won was the inner cities, where IQ is on average low, either because of cultural bias in the test, or because you guys have fucked up on social policy. the blue/red imbalance is bad at a state level- look at it on county level and you'll see just how isolated you really are.

Yes, all 5.5 million Cook County residents feel terribly isolated. Where is everyone?

The rest of Illinois is Indiana sans Mellencamp.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Exactly. Most of what gore won was the inner cities, where IQ is on average low, either because of cultural bias in the test, or because you guys have fucked up on social policy. the blue/red imbalance is bad at a state level- look at it on county level and you'll see just how isolated you really are.

Not to pick on a conservative for having a low IQ or anything, but the fact that Dems live in cities and Republicans live in the boondocks does not make the Dems "isolated."

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
the blue/red imbalance is bad at a state level- look at it on county level and you'll see just how isolated you really are.

I haven't run the county numbers, so I'll have to trust you on that, but I was under the impression that imbalance between the blue and red states wasn't so "bad" for the last pres election.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Don't know if this has been posted:

According to the Economist, of the top ten US states in terms of average IQ, all but one voted for Gore in the last election. On the other hand, all of the bottom ten voted for Bush.


1. Connecticut (avg IQ: 113): Gore
2. Mass (111): Gore
New Jersey (111): Gore
4. New York (109): Gore
5. R.I. (107): Gore
6. Hawaii (106): Gore
7. Maryland (105): Gore
New Hampshire (105): Bush
9. Illinois (104): Gore
10. Delaware (103): Gore

40. Alabama (90): Bush
Louisiana (90): Bush
Montana (90): Bush
Oklahoma (90): Bush
S. Dakota (90): Bush
46. S. Carolina (89): Bush
Wyoming (89): Bush
48. Idaho (87): Bush
Utah (87): Bush
50. Mississippi (85): Bush

What they should measure is the average IQ of the average Bush voter vs. the average Gore voter.

To do it by state and not by those who actually voted is not kosher. The states with the lower IQs, also have larger black populations percentage wise. Blacks don't do as well on IQ tests as whites.* Yet blacks voted overwhelmingly for Gore.

South Carolina and Mississippi's lower average IQ may very well be explained by their high percentage of black residents, who voted overwhelmingly for Gore. So you see, unless you look at the average IQ of the actual voters, your study is horribly confounded.

*look it up if you don't believe me. Of course, it is questionable whether an IQ test is a good method of testing intelligence.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
The states with the lower IQs, also have larger black populations percentage wise. Blacks don't do as well on IQ tests as whites.* Yet blacks voted overwhelmingly for Gore.

You're forgetting that black conservatives really drag those numbers down. Black Democrats have higher than average IQ.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Not to pick on a conservative for having a low IQ or anything, but the fact that Dems live in cities and Republicans live in the boondocks does not make the Dems "isolated."

I thought you live in something county- not San Fransisco.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I thought you live in something county- not San Fransisco.

I never said I'm smart, but I'm certainly not isolated.