Politics As Usual

[Gin Rummy]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
May I suggest a new avatar? You look so much younger here.

Thanks. So do you, but that might be the uniform.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The reporter stressed that this was not a Palestinian Red Cross ambulance, known to have transported armored Palestinians since the outbreak of events, but rather a supposedly neutral ambulance of the UN.

You know things are fucked up over there when the news stories dissect the relative neutrality of ambulances.

So Hank, with all these stories of corruption and ambulance malfeasance, do you think we should withdraw from the UN?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
You know things are fucked up over there when the news stories dissect the relative neutrality of ambulances.

So Hank, with all these stories of corruption and ambulance malfeasance, do you think we should withdraw from the UN?

No. We should do all we can to grind its "work" to a halt, sure, but we gotta keep the seat. Just like we need spies in Iranistan, we need someone there listening to what those guys are saying.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

"Some intelligence officials now believe that Iran used the hawks in the Pentagon and the White House to get rid of a hostile neighbour, and pave the way for a Shia-ruled Iraq.... Larry Johnson, a former senior counter-terrorist official at the state department, said: 'When the story ultimately comes out we'll see that Iran has run one of the most masterful intelligence operations in history. They persuaded the US and Britain to dispose of its greatest enemy.'"



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[Replaced_Texan]

From www.bushislord.com ("Welcome to Bush Is Lord. Our purpose is to bring you documentation to our media-supported claim that George W. Bush is indeed not only our nation's leader, but our spiritual lighthouse and embodied salvation.")

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
From www.bushislord.com ("Welcome to Bush Is Lord. Our purpose is to bring you documentation to our media-supported claim that George W. Bush is indeed not only our nation's leader, but our spiritual lighthouse and embodied salvation.")

Didn't Stephen Glass get in big trouble for writing an article like that? Or was that the Church of 41?

eta: A little Google research reveals that I'm thinking of the First Church of George Herbert Walker Bush. Maybe this is a splinter faction devoted to the son of God.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
No. We should do all we can to grind its "work" to a halt, sure, but we gotta keep the seat. Just like we need spies in Iranistan, we need someone there listening to what those guys are saying.

Obstructionist, yet willing to listen. Got it.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
"Some intelligence officials now believe that Iran used the hawks in the Pentagon and the White House to get rid of a hostile neighbour, and pave the way for a Shia-ruled Iraq.... Larry Johnson, a former senior counter-terrorist official at the state department, said: 'When the story ultimately comes out we'll see that Iran has run one of the most masterful intelligence operations in history. They persuaded the US and Britain to dispose of its greatest enemy.'"



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http://batesmotel.8m.com/

Ty, meet my friend...

FAKED MOON LANDINGS ?




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My conspiracy theory for this report is that we never went to the moon. The whole dang thing was faked. When I had first heard of this idea, I though to my self that it was a load of rubbish. "Of course we went to the moon" Kept going through my mind.
I had first heard of this Idea from a local Radio Talk Show, Ground Zero, which plays every Sunday night on KBER 101.1
They had brought up some interesting points, but I was not quite sure that I believed them, so I have taken this opportunity to study this Idea further. I am now convinced that we never landed on the moon, and it is my hope, that I can make you question it yourself. One thing that I would like to call to attention, is that I am not an expert on anything that is written in this report. I don't know much about camera's, or non-atmospheric conditions, or physics or anything. I am just a senior in high school, and about the only thing that I know professionally is how to run movie projectors. I challenge all that read this page to find something wrong with it, and tell me about it, so I can more accurately disprove one of the most historical events of the century..... The Landing on the Moon.

Lets Start off with the pictures
Lets face it, there isn't really a heapload of evidence that we didn't go to the moon. Why would there be? NASA doesn't WANT evidence that we went to the moon. NASA wants people not to ask questions, and keep living their happy little lives. But here is some evidence that you cannot argue with. My theory is that the moon landing were set on a sound stage, not in space. (Perhaps an Air Force base near San Bernardino, called Norton Air Force Base, where they have the world's largest sound stages under tremendously efficient security).

This is a famous picture labeled "Man on the Moon" I have a poster of this picture hanging on my wall in my room, and it always gives me a chuckle.

If you will look at area B you will notice a shadow cast across Buzz Aldrin's space suit. Once again, if the Sun is the only light source used on the moon, this shadow would have been MUCH darker.
Looking at area C you will notice that the surface of the moon fades off into the distance, then is met with the moon's horizon. In a no-atmosphere environment, the ground shouldn't have faded out, but stayed crystal sharp unto the moon's horizon.

Looking at area D you can plainly see some type of structure reflected through Aldrins helmet. I do not know what it is, but it is there.

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In this picture, taken from the LEM, you can see at least two abnormalities. In section E you see an abnormal shadow on the moon's surface. NASA claims that this shadow is the shadow cast by the Lunar Module, but on earth, even when aircraft is flying low to the ground, it does not produce such a clearly defined shadow.

OK, here's the kicker... if you will look at section 3 you will notice there are no stars in the sky. In fact, you will never see any stars in any NASA Moon photographs, or hear an astronaut mention anything about the glorious stars that are visible when out of the earths atmosphere.

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[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ty, meet my friend...

I can't believe that you would post to this without mentioning Capricorn One. And I thought you were my friend.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
"Some intelligence officials now believe that Iran used the hawks in the Pentagon and the White House to get rid of a hostile neighbour, and pave the way for a Shia-ruled Iraq.... Larry Johnson, a former senior counter-terrorist official at the state department, said: 'When the story ultimately comes out we'll see that Iran has run one of the most masterful intelligence operations in history. They persuaded the US and Britain to dispose of its greatest enemy.'"



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Interesting. I am curious to know what sort of secrets Chalabi was given access to and why he needed access to the information.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
From www.bushislord.com ("Welcome to Bush Is Lord. Our purpose is to bring you documentation to our media-supported claim that George W. Bush is indeed not only our nation's leader, but our spiritual lighthouse and embodied salvation.")

That picture looks alarmingly like the Preacher on Deadwood. After he started going whackadoo.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
[conspiracy theory stuff]

Good stuff. Along those lines, I'm considering a new avatar.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://batesmotel.8m.com/

It is amusing how similar the reasoning in that link is to Sidd's reasoning that leads him to conclude that senior officials ordered the Abu Gharaib abuses ("the fact that they took photos shows that their commanders approved of what they were doing," etc.)

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by taxwonk
That picture looks alarmingly like the Preacher on Deadwood. After he started going whackadoo.

Wow, you're right. I wish you hadn't mentioned that. Now I'm just going to imagine Bush in cabinet meetings whining "I can't feel the Lord's grace when I read scripture any more."

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Tom Friedman in today's NYT on what we should be doing:

• • We would take all the money the Bush team has wasted on P.R. campaigns directed at the Arab-Muslim world and put it into three programs: a huge expansion of U.S. embassy libraries around the world, which have been cut in recent years (you'd be amazed at how many young people abroad had their first contact with America through an embassy library), a huge expansion of scholarships for foreign students to study in America, and a huge expansion of our immigration service so it can quickly figure out who should get visas to study or work in America and who shouldn't. Too many good students are getting shut out of the U.S. You don't get better P.R. from ads. You get it from bringing people into America or American libraries and letting them draw their own conclusions.
  
  • We would adopt a 50-cents-a-gallon gasoline tax, the Patriot Tax (along with my wife's proposal: free public parking anywhere in America for any hybrid or other car getting more than 35 m.p.g.). A Patriot Tax would help pay for the Afghan and Iraq wars and help finance a Manhattan project to speed the development of a hydrogen economy, enabling the public to make a contribution to the war effort while lessening our dependence on foreign oil.
  
  There is simply no way to stimulate a process of economic and political reform in the Arab-Muslim world without radically reducing their revenues from oil, thereby forcing these governments to reform their economies, and societies, to produce real jobs for their people. Is there anything dumber than the Bush campaign ads chastising John Kerry for once favoring a gasoline tax? Had we imposed a Patriot Tax a year ago, gasoline might still cost $2 a gallon today, but 50 cents of that would have gone to paying for American schools rather than Saudi madrassas.
  
  • We would spearhead efforts in trade talks to reduce U.S., European and Japanese farm subsidies. Nothing would be more helpful to Pakistani, Egyptian and other poor farmers in the Muslim and developing worlds than no longer having to compete with our subsidized produce.
  
  • We would make a serious effort to diffuse the toxic Arab-Israeli conflict, including using NATO forces to separate the parties.
  
  • We would spell out that the war on terrorism is a long-term war on radical Islam — and while force is necessary in that effort, it is not sufficient. We have to connect all of the above dots to strengthen Arab-Muslim moderates, because only they can take on their extremists. Unfortunately, the Bush team reacted to 9/11 as if all the old rules and methods had to go. I believe 9/11 was gigantic. But the old rule book — emphasizing allies, the Geneva Conventions, self-sacrifice, economic development, education, Arab-Israeli diplomacy — was and remains our greatest source of strength in the effort to promote gradual reform in the regions most likely to breed threats to our open society.