Politics As Usual

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Since we're making up IQ facts, let me point out that literal people have notoriously low IQs.

What about literal socks?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I get the economic correlation, and could see that maybe among those people who are drawn to one party or another, Republicans might do better on the IQ thing.

But doesn't your second statement, with which I completely agree and which I suspect is well documented, contradict your first? I mean, not everybody is a Republican because they are rich. Some are just wingnuts.

It really is just a matter of an average. Truth be told, a more useful number to look at is the median, not the average. The standard deviation would of course be important, too.

The mode would be useful to look at, too.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I give up. My final answer is:

Chocolate babies?

"I can't believe I paid $20 for this piece of meat."

"Chateaubriand?"

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Given the volume of oil in the world market and the volume in the strategic reserve, I find those numbers utterly implausible. Which is to say, cite please.

TAYLOR: It's only been used a couple of times, most recently in 2000 by President Clinton. He allowed companies to borrow oil from the reserve with promised to pay that oil back, either in kind or in price somewhere down the road to alleviate the price spike that we saw in 2000.

That reduced price nearly overnight, from about $37 a barrel down to about $31 a barrel. So it had a very quick impact, but then prices started creeping back up again in short order. And so there's some debate about how much that relief did for the world market.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120376,00.html

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop

• The Republican party is now committed to chronic fiscal irresponsibility, the micro-managing of people's private lives, the subjugation of political to religious discourse, and the politicization of the Constitution.

cite

Let's see. Across the bench we have:

Higher Taxes
Affirmative Action
Overly-Broad construction of the First Amendment
Overly-restrictive reading of the Second Amendment.

Which party was he talking about again?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120376,00.html

Taylor is unspecific about timing, so it's a little hard to tell how long that $31 price held. This suggests to me that this government action only works if it's unanticipated by the market, because there is some short term inelasticity of supply, but that this effect doesn't last very long at all. Which is to say it really wouldn't do much good, as Taylor seems to acknowledge.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

• The Republican party is now committed to chronic fiscal irresponsibility, the micro-managing of people's private lives, the subjugation of political to religious discourse, and the politicization of the Constitution. In so many ways, it is an insult to the word "conservative."

cite

The Rep party is not conservative in the Barry Goldwater sense of the word anymore. The Rep party on whole is right of center but not right wing.

There are right wing elements within the party, but it is a diverse party with a common goal - less taxation.

It is a big tent, you know.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sgtclub
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120376,00.html

Your sources suck.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Overly-Broad construction of the First Amendment

So which one are you against, speech or religion? On second thought, nevermind.

I'll note the Dems are the party of peyote sacraments and medical marijuana, which should help single-issue voters on bedshitting to decide.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Higher Taxes

I understand this contradicts your dogma (or is that your culture?), but someone is going to have to pay for the money Bush is spending. If not now, later with interest. He's for taxing our kids.

Affirmative Action

Bzzzt. Non-responsive. Besides, didn't Bush try to finesse the UM case in the Supreme Court?

Overly-Broad construction of the First Amendment

Yeah, whatever. If you think the wingnuts should be teaching creation science in the public schools, you should move to the boondocks for the quality of education you'll find there.

Overly-restrictive reading of the Second Amendment.

Sullivan was talking about all the attempts to amend the Constitution. You see, Bush wants to enshrine discrimination against Sullivan and other gays in the Constitution. I know you personally don't like this, so I can understand why you would change the subject.

And sooner or later we'll have the Second Amendment debate on this board and I'll kick your ass. I like guns as much as the next guy, but you guys just try to ignore the "well-regulated militia" part.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
There are right wing elements within the party, but it is a diverse party with a common goal - less taxation.

The one thing that unites Republicans is the thought that we can spend money today and have our kids pay for it tomorrow. Sooner or later, the grownups will put a halt to these sorts of tax cuts without concomitant cuts in spending, and then the party will be over.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Your sources suck.

http://www.freep.com/news/politics/gas19_20040519.htm

• The reserve was most recently tapped in 2000, when the Clinton administration put 30 million barrels of oil onto the market. Oil prices dropped to $30 a barrel, down from $37 a barrel, but rebounded within days to $36 per barrel.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The one thing that unites Republicans is the thought that we can spend money today and have our kids pay for it tomorrow. Sooner or later, the grownups will put a halt to these sorts of tax cuts without concomitant cuts in spending, and then the party will be over.

Cutting taxes improves the economy which leads to a larger tax base which leads to higher revenues.

For the record, though, I don't have kids and never will. In fact, I hate kids and laugh at the idea that your kids will be paying for my benefits. Muaahahahaha!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
http://www.freep.com/news/politics/gas19_20040519.htm

• The reserve was most recently tapped in 2000, when the Clinton administration put 30 million barrels of oil onto the market. Oil prices dropped to $30 a barrel, down from $37 a barrel, but rebounded within days to $36 per barrel.

Do you guys think prices at the pump would fall in this situation? Did it happen in 2000? If not, consumers aren't seeing any benefit, and middlemen are enriched. Retail gas prices are slow to drop.

[Not Me]

I would like to commend those who participated in the discussion on the PB today. Job well done.

That is all. You are dismissed.