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06-03-2004, 12:48 AM
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Chickens Roosting Dept.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The DOJ is not the President's personal law firm. Had he consulted with DOJ, they would not have been advising him in his personal capacity. In the event that he has some personal exposure, he need his own lawyer.
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Just curious. What type of personal liability could he have? Surely the president wasn't the source of the leak. |
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06-03-2004, 12:50 AM
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#1262
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Serenity Now
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the Kerry Mutiny
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Do you not recall the reason why the phrase "October surprise" is loaded? If something of that sort were to come out in October, that would be bad juju indeed.
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Doubtful. They could always rely on the "given the beating we have taken for the last 6 months, we wanted to be sure" defense. |
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06-03-2004, 12:52 AM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Strange Bedfellows
If you guys promise not to bring up Barbara Streisand, I promise not to mention Don King.
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06-03-2004, 12:54 AM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Just curious. What type of personal liability could he have? Surely the president wasn't the source of the leak.
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I have no idea. I wouldn't have thought he would need a lawyer.
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06-03-2004, 01:01 AM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Tyrone Slothrop
The DOJ is not the President's personal law firm. Had he consulted with DOJ, they would not have been advising him in his personal capacity. In the event that he has some personal exposure, he need his own lawyer.
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Yes, yes. I believe this was all hashed out in the media time and time again during the CLINTON administration*
* stop throwing softballs |
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06-03-2004, 01:12 AM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Yes, yes. I believe this was all hashed out in the media time and time again during the CLINTON administration*
* stop throwing softballs
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OK, OK, you win: Bush's abuse of his office is starting to remind one of Clinton. Happy now?
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06-03-2004, 01:16 AM
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Fast left eighty slippy
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Twin Cobra Fist!
I don't know if you guys took a break from your swordfighting to talk about this, but it amused the fuck out of me:
The many fighting techniques of Rummy |
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06-03-2004, 01:18 AM
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Consigliere
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Chickens Roosting Dept.
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Tyrone Slothrop
OK, OK, you win: Bush's abuse of his office is starting to remind one of Clinton. Happy now?
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Sadly, no. Not at all :sniffle: |
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06-03-2004, 09:42 AM
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Moderator
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The DOJ is not the President's personal law firm. Had he consulted with DOJ, they would not have been advising him in his personal capacity. In the event that he has some personal exposure, he need his own lawyer.
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I wonder if he'll follow the precedent of not paying his outside lawyers. |
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06-03-2004, 09:48 AM
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Theo rests his case
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Twin Cobra Fist!
Very nice of you to make fun of the guy for the way he talks. Y'all didn't learn your lesson from making fun of, uhm, Quayle's "uhms"?
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Man, back in the day, you used to love getting flushed, you'd be all like 'Flush me J! Flush me!' And I'd be like 'Nawww'
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06-03-2004, 10:09 AM
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Classified
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Chickens Roosting Dept.
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Just curious. What type of personal liability could he have? Surely the president wasn't the source of the leak.
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Anyone who testifies before a grand jury has potential exposure -- if only related to the testimony rather than the substance being investigated.
If there is a chance they'll ask him questions -- he'd be nuts not to get his own lawyer. As Ty notes, the Clinton-era prosecutions establishes that neither DOJ nor the White House counsel can represent the President personally.
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06-03-2004, 10:09 AM
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Theo rests his case
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Very sad article
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ers__regrets_1
(80 Israeli soldiers speak out on Hebron, all of whom served in Hebron to "protect"... or protect, whichever, 500 extremist settlers)
Someone is going to have to pick up the baton from me on this one. All I hear in this is "evacuation".
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Man, back in the day, you used to love getting flushed, you'd be all like 'Flush me J! Flush me!' And I'd be like 'Nawww'
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06-03-2004, 10:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Chickens Roosting Dept.
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
So me and Club were wrong. The Syrians don't have the WMDs. It's beginning to sound like the Iranians do.
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Did you link to the correct article? That article does not seem to discuss weapons.
Was Saddam buddies with Iran? Such that he'd send over his WMDs? For some reason, this sounds wrong to me. I thought Iraq under Saddam's regime and Iran were not what one would call allies (yeah, yeah, except in that they are allied with each other and both are allied with North Korea in the [WWF announcer voice]Aaaaaaaxiiiiissssssssss oooooooooooffffffff Eeeeeeeviiiiiilllllll[/WWF announcer voice]).
Again, surely you can do better. |
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06-03-2004, 10:40 AM
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Caustically Optimistic
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: The City That Reads
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Chickens Roosting Dept.
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
[kyle]Holy shit, dude![/kyle]
All I wanted was for Scooter Libby to swing from a metaphorical lamp-post. Last time I read the treason statutes (about 1995; ugly business; best not speak of it again) the lamp-post at issue was somewhat more corporeal.
Gotta admire GWB's loyalty, if nothing else.
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I can't believe they let him speak to a lawyer. How will the investigators find out the truth now? |
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06-03-2004, 10:51 AM
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Chickens Roosting Dept.
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Originally posted by baltassoc
I can't believe they let him speak to a lawyer. How will the investigators find out the truth now?
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Well, I heard that the special prosecutor tried to get Bush to declare himself an enemy combatant, but he asked too many questions before signing the form.
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