Waiting for Fitzgerald

[nononono]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Who said, Camille Paglia?

What's the CW, reproductive strategy? (this wouldn't apply to Clinton, he was sterile, from a bout of childhood mumps.)

I don't know who said, but to say rape has nothing to do with sex was a bad notion to begin with and I believe is no longer how it is considered, generally. I confess to not being on the vanguard, but some years ago I recall being glad we could get over the "it's not ever sexual, ever at all" perspective.

No, CW is sex, and violence.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Bush I was a smart guy who did next to nothing. Compared to the visionary he followed, he wasn't shit.*

* I'm not saying I agreed with everything Reagan did, but he was a visionary, and he did achieve some important things in office and change the country.

I agree with that. Like Clinton, Bush I's legacy is as much wasted potential as it is any specific act of governance or leadership.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by nononono
Is that sort of like Hank calling me a boy, when, in fact, I'm a girl?

No. It would be like Hank calling you a boy, when in fact, you're a boi.

[nononono]

Originally posted by Not Bob
No. It would be like Hank calling you a boy, when in fact, you're a boi.

Oh, thanks, start that rumor, too.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Didn't say that . . although wasn't Bob Packwood an (R)? What did you mean by "any"?

I was sloppy, I didn't mean "any" to imply there were none, I meant any as in "pick any random R (or D) and you can dig up a sexual abuse claim".

There are certainly some small percentage on both sides of the aisle.

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
My point was this -- It is an unfortunate (but true) fact that a lamentably high percentage of men in this country could be credibly accused of sexual assault and/or rape if you look closely enough and far enough back in their history (especially the young and/or drunken college days).

Possibly, although few (excepting politicians and other cousins from the Kennedy family) would have the serial aspect to the behaviour. Not to excuse any bad act, but one drunken night of "he said, she said" is different in magnitude from the history of allegations against Clinton.

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I will take you at your word that this is not an issue for you, as you were chased during college.

Chaste. Celibate. I was a semenary student. My one vice was the communional wine.

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
That doesn't diminish the harm of it, or make it right.

2.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by nononono
I don't know who said, but to say rape has nothing to do with sex was a bad notion to begin with and I believe is no longer how it is considered, generally. I confess to not being on the vanguard, but some years ago I recall being glad we could get over the "it's not ever sexual, ever at all" perspective.

No, CW is sex, and violence.

Generally I agree, to the extent that it is an act of violence where the instrumentality to carry out the violence and/or infliction of abusive power over the victim is a sex act.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Chaste. Celibate. I was a semenary student. My one vice was the communional wine.

Very nice.

S_A_M

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by nononono
Oh, thanks, start that rumor, too.

Anti-competitive conduct? Of course. Guilty as charged. What can I say? After all, I could not love thee, dear, so much/loved I not honor more. Uh, less. Whichever.

[nononono]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Anti-competitive conduct? Of course. Guilty as charged. What can I say? After all, I could not love thee, dear, so much/loved I not honor more. Uh, less. Whichever.

Yeah,yeah, something else always comes first. If not honor, then football, whatever.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I agree with that. Like Clinton, Bush I's legacy is as much wasted potential as it is any specific act of governance or leadership.

Bush I steered us out of a recession. Clinton was smart enough to stay the course. Bubba's brilliance was his refusal to tinker with a an economic boom. A stupid president might have actually tried to do something proactive from 92 through 99.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
A stupid president might have actually tried to do something proactive from 92 through 99.

So now you are claiming that Monica was the aggressor? Her mouth just happened to fall on his dick?

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
So now you are claiming that Monica was the aggressor? Her mouth just happened to fall on his dick?

Actually, I believe she stated that thong-showing was how she attracted his attention.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Actually, I believe she stated that thong-showing was how she attracted his attention.

Thong sitings in the office can be hot, Slave excepted. No offence.

[Penske_Account]

President Bush said today that military action was a "last resort" in dealing with Syria if Damascus refused to co-operate with a United Nations investigation into the murder of Rafik Hariri, the former Lebanese prime minister.

Translation: Full steam ahead!!!

Woo Hoo!! Now we will finally have a chance to uncover the WMDs that were moved from Iraq and vindicate Colin Powell.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Thong sitings . . .

It's gotta be intentional. However, maybe not - "sightings" and "citings" work well, too.