A Black Hole of Happiness

[Cletus Miller]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I guess we're in agreement, then?

Yes.

Although ARod is leading him in almost every offensive statistic, which makes him a better offensive player as well -- just not doubly so.

TM

In a better line-up, with a better home ballpark for hitters, and at an age where it would be expected that he'd put up better numbers, but yeah, ARod has had better number the last four years than Cabrera. But Cabrera will almost undoubtedly have better numbers 10 years from now, at the end of their prospective contracts.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Cletus Miller
But Cabrera will almost undoubtedly have better numbers 10 years from now, at the end of their prospective contracts.

Not if A-Rod keeps talking to the right people:

[Paisley]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Secret_Agent_Baby No. 2 is not a huge stuffed animal fan, but she loves her some baby dolls. At her age, the names aren't all that creative.

The multiplicity of Monkey names reminded me of "Big Baby" (the favorite, and actually middle-sized), Little Baby, Bald-headed Baby (poor thing), Sleeping Baby, Memo Baby, etc., etc.

S_A_M

Uh, memo baby? Too much time at the office?

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Presumably you've been in this state long enough to know that we're a right on red state.

The six minutes waiting for you to get your big ass suburban moving when no cars were coming were excruciating.

There's this invention called the horn. Press it, only to release it when she moves.

I once broke my horn doing this to a car full of nuns and had to take the horn apart while driving.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Cletus Miller
In a better line-up, with a better home ballpark for hitters, and at an age where it would be expected that he'd put up better numbers, but yeah, ARod has had better number the last four years than Cabrera. But Cabrera will almost undoubtedly have better numbers 10 years from now, at the end of their prospective contracts.

Let me get this straight. You think Cabrera will put up better offensive numbers than ARod, who is currently on track to hit over 60 home runs this season? I assume he'll have a significant drop off four years from now, but I don't see him hitting less than 35-40 home runs for the foreseeable future. Cabrera has yet to hit 35. His RBI #s are impressive, but when will ARod not be on a team where he can drive in his typical 125 RBI? Arod's a career .300 hitter and Cabrera has him beat there, but that may even out the longer he's in the league.

I love Cabrera and he'd be my next pick after ARod at third (based on their numbers), but, barring injury, I don't think his numbers will be better than ARod's over the next 10 years.

TM

[Fugee]

Originally posted by Cletus Miller
Boras strings this out

Isn't this redundant?

[dtb]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
When I was small and helped my mother with the dishes, I would put on a wedding between the soup spoon (bride - obviously) and the fork (groom - obviously), officiated by a (dull) knife. The bride wore a dishtowel as a veil. A teaspoon was a flower girl and cake fork was the ring bearer.

It was all hearts and flowers until the bride ran off with that rake, the dish.

OK, this is just creepy. I did a version of this when setting the table as a youngster. In fact, when reading rp's post, I thought, "I don't remember posting today.."

Whoa.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Let me get this straight. You think Cabrera will put up better offensive numbers than ARod, who is currently on track to hit over 60 home runs this season? I assume he'll have a significant drop off four years from now, but I don't see him hitting less than 35-40 home runs for the foreseeable future. Cabrera has yet to hit 35. His RBI #s are impressive, but when will ARod not be on a team where he can drive in his typical 125 RBI? Arod's a career .300 hitter and Cabrera has him beat there, but that may even out the longer he's in the league.

I love Cabrera and he'd be my next pick after ARod at third (based on their numbers), but, barring injury, I don't think his numbers will be better than ARod's over the next 10 years.

TM

First, I'm assuming, possibly incorrectly, that Miggy leaves the Marlins. So, he'd leave a park which is hurts his power numbers a bunch (his 3 full seasons he's hit 30% more homers on the road; Arod was closer to even split in Seattle) and probably be in the the middle of a better line-up giving him more RBI opportunity.

Second, compare his numbers to ARod's when Arod was 21, 22, 23, 24. Miggy's not that far behind, tho he is a bit behind. ARod's really big years started when he was 25--next year for Miggy--and after he left Seattle.

Third, you really believe that, barring injury to either, ARod will be a more productive hitter at 40 than Cabrera will be at 32? You think that ARod will drop off only slightly and that Cabrera will not get better? I don't.

I'm not saying that Cabrera will end up with better numbers over his entire career than ARod--I seriously doubt that--but I am saying that I think the 24 yo Cabrera will have a better next 10 years than the 32 yo ARod. With the notable exception of Bonds, hitters don't get better after they're 32. They do get better, especially w/r/t power stats, after they are 24--Arod is just one example.

[Paisley]

Art cars -

http://underground.yahoo.com/feature...1055/pl:27028/

The school bus sort of scares me, but perhaps because I had some scary school bus drivers who likely would have seen that design as an invitation to try out the alternate set of wheels.

[SlaveNoMore]

Cletus Miller
Third, you really believe that, barring injury to either, ARod will be a more productive hitter at 40 than Cabrera will be at 32? You think that ARod will drop off only slightly and that Cabrera will not get better? I don't.

I'm not saying that Cabrera will end up with better numbers over his entire career than ARod--I seriously doubt that--but I am saying that I think the 24 yo Cabrera will have a better next 10 years than the 32 yo ARod. With the notable exception of Bonds, hitters don't get better after they're 32. They do get better, especially w/r/t power stats, after they are 24--Arod is just one example.

A-Rod is an athletic marvel and will probably still be in olympian shape, physically, at 40.

Whereas, Miggy is 4 years away from looking like Cecil Fielder.

[ltl/fb]

If I may be coming down with a sinus infection, should I (a) cancel a massage or (b) try to make it an extended session?

[ltl/fb]

For some reason, Bank of America (by default) characterizes the transaction that is the direct deposit of my bi-weekly paycheck as "Hobbies."

[Cletus Miller]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
A-Rod is an athletic marvel and will probably still be in olympian shape, physically, at 40.

Whereas, Miggy is 4 years away from looking like Cecil Fielder.

Woohoo. Most olympians could never hit a major league pitch as well as Cecil Fielder. One has very little to do with the other.

It's easy to gamble on such things with someone else's money, especially when its the Yanks, who will continue to have enough resources to just replace an aging ARod with some other top flight player. There's an implicit assumption that if in 6 years ARod sux, the Yankees will figure out a way to get a replacement top 3 3d baseman (perhaps Cabrera).

There's no doubt that ARod is worth more today and probably will produce more for the next 5 years. The question is whether it's likely that Arod will continue to be twice as valuable as Cabrera 7, 8 or 10 years from now. That I doubt.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
If I may be coming down with a sinus infection, should I (a) cancel a massage or (b) try to make it an extended session?

Why change at all?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Why change at all?

Surely illness demands some sort of change.