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Old 01-17-2007, 04:28 PM   #2881
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I know this is not meant that literally, but I always find it funny that people use "paying for diapers" as shorthand for how expensive it is to have a kid. Diapers aren't that expensive and even if your kid poops a dozen times a day, it's just not that much money.
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Old 01-17-2007, 04:30 PM   #2882
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I'd have traded bad pregnant sex for the no pregnant sex. :-(
Ick. Really? I'd so much rather have no sex than bad sex.
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Old 01-17-2007, 04:31 PM   #2883
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Ass, pussy, gunt, tits, armpit, what's the difference? It's all soft, warm and sweaty anyway.
They call that a soft clusterfuck.
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Old 01-17-2007, 04:32 PM   #2884
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But you can't fix it without being a jerk.
Really, she has no place fixing the behavior of another adult, anyway, while being a jerk or not. Correcting anyone else other than a minor in one's parental custody is almost always a worse behavioral sin than whatever you are attempting to correct. Best you can do is what I would call "increasing awareness" in the hopes that the person will correct themselves.

Hence the usual "polite" phrases "I guess I'm not familiar with that word in this context" or "is that how that word is pronounced? I'd always wondered," or (particularly for those minors not in your parental custody) "I really wouldn't do that, that chair is a bit fragile and I'd hate for you to get hurt" (note the lack of specificity about the source of said hurt). Or, for something actually offensive that you really can't leave alone: "I don't understand you," followed by insistence that the person explain their "joke" or whatever in self-humiliating detail, or the classic, all-purpose "I BEG your pardon?"

I knew a woman in school who was talking about how she finally figured out some subject when she realized it was all about the "Hyper Bowl." I just sort of said "oh," because I had no clue what she was talking about, but she kept saying it over and over (I think I wrote it off as some local form of gunner bingo). About 3 weeks later it finally clicked, and I woke up at 3 am laughing my ass off. She'd clued in by that time, and I never heard her utter the word again, even correctly.
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Old 01-17-2007, 04:32 PM   #2885
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Old 01-17-2007, 04:38 PM   #2886
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Really, she has no place fixing the behavior of another adult, anyway, while being a jerk or not. Correcting anyone else other than a minor in one's parental custody is almost always a worse behavioral sin than whatever you are attempting to correct. Best you can do is what I would call "increasing awareness" in the hopes that the person will correct themselves.

Hence the usual "polite" phrases "I guess I'm not familiar with that word in this context" or "is that how that word is pronounced? I'd always wondered," or (particularly for those minors not in your parental custody) "I really wouldn't do that, that chair is a bit fragile and I'd hate for you to get hurt" (note the lack of specificity about the source of said hurt). Or, for something actually offensive that you really can't leave alone: "I don't understand you," followed by insistence that the person explain their "joke" or whatever in self-humiliating detail, or the classic, all-purpose "I BEG your pardon?"

I knew a woman in school who was talking about how she finally figured out some subject when she realized it was all about the "Hyper Bowl." I just sort of said "oh," because I had no clue what she was talking about, but she kept saying it over and over (I think I wrote it off as some local form of gunner bingo). About 3 weeks later it finally clicked, and I woke up at 3 am laughing my ass off. She'd clued in by that time, and I never heard her utter the word again, even correctly.
Let me repeat: I have been asked to do this. This does not make me 100% comfortable, however, and moreover, I want to do it in the least rude way possible. This means I don't do it every time the opportunity occurs, but given that someone would like the correction (and other language/spelling/pronunciation help), I don't feel it's out of bounds.

Frankly, saying "how so?" to someone who is somewhat uncertain of her word choice in general and aware there's a reasonably high probability of its having been used incorrectly would make the point in a rather snarky way, which isn't the goal in the least. Yes, the errors bother me, but I wouldn't make the correction without having been asked and repeatedly being told, "yes, it is okay," and "I would like you to do that for me." I've no interest in making the person feel inadequate or like an idiot in the course of anything.

in sum, this is more a team effort, but I recognize that even someone who asked for the favor may start to feel uncomfortable as a result, and I want to avoid that.
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Old 01-17-2007, 04:42 PM   #2887
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Really, she has no place fixing the behavior of another adult, anyway, while being a jerk or not. Correcting anyone else other than a minor in one's parental custody is almost always a worse behavioral sin than whatever you are attempting to correct. Best you can do is what I would call "increasing awareness" in the hopes that the person will correct themselves.

Hence the usual "polite" phrases "I guess I'm not familiar with that word in this context" or "is that how that word is pronounced? I'd always wondered," or (particularly for those minors not in your parental custody) "I really wouldn't do that, that chair is a bit fragile and I'd hate for you to get hurt" (note the lack of specificity about the source of said hurt). Or, for something actually offensive that you really can't leave alone: "I don't understand you," followed by insistence that the person explain their "joke" or whatever in self-humiliating detail, or the classic, all-purpose "I BEG your pardon?"
I realize we live in two completely different worlds. I also realize that people generally tend to dislike being corrected. But if I'm using a word incorrectly, I want someone to tell me -- especially a friend.

Just be polite about it. Go with the "I do not think that word means what you think it means" quote from Princess Bride if you think they're going to be overly sensitive.

But the whole, pretend-nothing-is-wrong-while-not-so-subtlely-inserting-"polite-phrases"-to-help makes me want to throw up.

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This may come as a shock, but before I was the square I am now, back when I was ruining the careers of professional hockey players and posing for calendars, I might have stepped into a frat house. By accident. To ask for directions.
Early GWNC: "Pardon me, boys. I seem to be lost. Can any of you point me in the direction of the nearest cock?"

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Poetic. You've captured the moment.
Agreed. I had to excuse myself for a moment.
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I'd have traded bad pregnant sex for the no pregnant sex. :-(
I would have made that trade.

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Old 01-17-2007, 04:46 PM   #2891
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I would have made that trade.
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Ick. Really? I'd so much rather have no sex than bad sex.
Hmmm, didn't some of your posts about your marriage indicate otherwise or am I recollecting wrongly?
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Hmmm, didn't some of your posts about your marriage indicate otherwise or am I recollecting wrongly?
I'm not quite sure what you are getting at. I had plenty of bad sex during my marriage. I would have preferred to not have had sex at all.
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Old 01-17-2007, 04:51 PM   #2894
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FWIW, I object to the "fucking a fat girl" discussion. If I wanted to listen in at a frat house, I would go to a frat house.

I know we have probably discussed a million things that are more mean and cruel in the past, but discussions of this vein are just particularly bothersome to me.

That is all.
Yes. By all means. Let's get back to talk about fucking fat men with back hair. Because that's such a rare thing.
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