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01-22-2007, 05:56 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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Oh God Help Me.
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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Huh. Must not be the case down here in South Florida, because there isn't any foam insulation in the concrete. They stack the concrete blocks into a house shape, drywall the inside, stucco the outside and voila! A house!
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I'm still confused why it'd be an issue with prefabricated housing. There are a few prefab companies that use concrete (there's a really cool one in Venice California that comes to mind), but it's certainly not the material of choice for most prefab houses.
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01-22-2007, 05:58 PM
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God, please no
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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Tying this discussion in with the wood/concrete discussion, I will note here that my boyfriend was also once a huge fan of the Grateful Dead, and though he still sports long hair and a beard, he has yet to ask me to go to anything resembling a dead show, probably because he is a very smart man.
That said, he is also a very sophomoric man, because every time he goes out to the woodpile to get wood for the fire, he reports that he's "gotten wood" or sometime that he's "gotten wet wood". This is followed by a Beavis and Butthead like laugh.
Good thing he offers sex in the styles I prefer.
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Long hair and a beard? I guess this surprises me a little, although for reasons I cannot articulate. Pony tail? Scruffy beard or one that requires a lot of grooming?
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01-22-2007, 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Cletus Miller
There is apparently some risk from the foam insulation which is typically put in place when the concrete walls are constructed. The cement industry asserts that this is not a significant risk. It's hard (i.e. cannot be done in 30 seconds with google) to find a thorough, unbiased analysis of the risk.
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Is it possible that (depending on the mix of the concrete) the heat of other stuff burning could damage the concrete (e.g. severe cracking) or something? So, your house isn't burned down, but is uninhabitable and has to be pulled down. Or whatever.
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01-22-2007, 05:58 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Oh God Help Me.
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Serious question -- would an 8-foot ceiling seem low? I don't know how high ceilings generally are.
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I think they are generally about 7.5 or 8 feet. We have 9 foot ceilings and they are high, but not grotesquely so.
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01-22-2007, 05:59 PM
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Oh God Help Me.
Quote:
Originally posted by Cletus Miller
There is apparently some risk from the foam insulation which is typically put in place when the concrete walls are constructed. The cement industry asserts that this is not a significant risk. It's hard (i.e. cannot be done in 30 seconds with google) to find a thorough, unbiased analysis of the risk.
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There is also this
"He and two coauthors -- Professor Olivier Coussy of the Laboratoire Central des Ponts et Chaussees in France and Professor Zdenek Bazant at Northwestern University -- discovered that when mature dried concrete is exposed to extreme heat for long periods of time, the chemical bonds between the water molecules in the concrete break, destroying molecular bridges that bind together the various materials that make up concrete.
As the water molecules are pulled out of the skeleton through dehydration, the concrete loses its cohesion and weakens, pushing pieces of the concrete off the tunnel walls in very thin layers resembling onion peel. This phenomenon, called spalling, can eventually work its way through the entire concrete ring lining a tunnel, layer by layer."
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01-22-2007, 06:01 PM
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Shake it off -- rub some dirt on it.
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Originally posted by ironweed
RFB?
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Republican Flute Band concerts seem a half step removed from Aryan Nation rallies. With more flute.
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01-22-2007, 06:03 PM
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Shake it off -- rub some dirt on it.
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Republican Flute Band concerts seem a half step removed from Aryan Nation rallies. With more flute.
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can they get a waiver of the football/baseball limitation to practice in the park?
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01-22-2007, 06:03 PM
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Oh God Help Me.
Quote:
Originally posted by patentparanyc
There is also this
"He and two coauthors -- Professor Olivier Coussy of the Laboratoire Central des Ponts et Chaussees in France and Professor Zdenek Bazant at Northwestern University -- discovered that when mature dried concrete is exposed to extreme heat for long periods of time, the chemical bonds between the water molecules in the concrete break, destroying molecular bridges that bind together the various materials that make up concrete.
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Help me out here. What is the risk we are talking about? If you drop a match or leave a candle burning, or let a spark escape from the fire place, are you saying that you're better off if you have a material other than concrete?
If your house has been exposed to extreme heat, to the point where it breaks teh chemical bonds between the water molecules in the mature concrete you have bigger problems than spalling. Such as being homeless and having had all your wordly possessions consumed in an apocalyptic conflagration.
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01-22-2007, 06:04 PM
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Oh God Help Me.
Quote:
Originally posted by taxwonk
I think they are generally about 7.5 or 8 feet. We have 9 foot ceilings and they are high, but not grotesquely so.
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Ah. The only place I have lived where I knew the height of the ceilings, they were 14 or 16. They seemed high, but were proportionate to the house. I am short and not good at judging distances (cue penis jokes), so I can tell that ceilings are lower, but not how much lower. I had 10 as standard/minimum in the back of my mind, but obviously that was wrong.
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01-22-2007, 06:04 PM
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Shake it off -- rub some dirt on it.
Quote:
Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Republican Flute Band concerts seem a half step removed from Aryan Nation rallies. With more flute.
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Maybe you should request a touch more flute from the musical director at your next Aryan Nation rally?
Given what I can see from the grainy video on that site, Republican Flute Band concerts are generally no steps removed from a bunch of drunks jumping up and down.
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01-22-2007, 06:04 PM
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It's all about me.
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God, please no
Quote:
Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Long hair and a beard? I guess this surprises me a little, although for reasons I cannot articulate. Pony tail? Scruffy beard or one that requires a lot of grooming?
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It surprises me a little bit too, but you have to remember that I've known him since I was 13 and dated him for the first time from when I was 17 until I was 21.
His hair was not long then. He did not have a beard.
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01-22-2007, 06:05 PM
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Oh God Help Me.
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Help me out here. What is the risk we are talking about? If you drop a match or leave a candle burning, or let a spark escape from the fire place, are you saying that you're better off if you have a material other than concrete?
If your house has been exposed to extreme heat, to the point where it breaks teh chemical bonds between the water molecules in the mature concrete you have bigger problems than spalling. Such as being homeless and having had all your wordly possessions consumed in an apocalyptic conflagration.
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Apocalypse!!!!!!
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01-22-2007, 06:06 PM
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Flaired.
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Shake it off -- rub some dirt on it.
Quote:
Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Republican Flute Band concerts seem a half step removed from Aryan Nation rallies. With more flute.
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jazz flute?
[insert picture of Ron Burgundy playing jazz flute here.]
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01-22-2007, 06:08 PM
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Southern charmer
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Shake it off -- rub some dirt on it.
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
jazz flute?
[insert picture of Ron Burgundy playing jazz flute here.]
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Oh, ok.
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01-22-2007, 06:09 PM
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Consigliere
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God, please no
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bold_n_brazen
It surprises me a little bit too, but you have to remember that I've known him since I was 13 and dated him for the first time from when I was 17 until I was 21.
His hair was not long then. He did not have a beard.
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Good god, woman. A recycle????
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