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Old 12-18-2006, 04:58 PM   #46
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"Yul Kwon was born in Queens, New York to parents who emigrated from South Korea. The family moved to the West Coast when he was six years old and he was raised in Concord, California. He attended high school at Northgate High in Walnut Creek, California, where he played varsity water polo and track and graduated valedictorian.

Kwon then attended Stanford University and obtained a Bachelor of Science Degree in symbolic systems (theoretical computer science). While at Stanford, he received the James Lyons Award for Service, attended officer candidates school for the U.S. Marine Corps and graduated Phi Beta Kappa. Kwon went on to receive his Juris Doctor Degree from Yale Law School, where he served on the editorial board of the Yale Law Journal.

Kwon has enjoyed a diverse career straddling both the private and public sectors in law, business and technology. He practiced a mix of litigation, appellate, transactional and regulatory work at several law firms. He also served as a judicial clerk to a federal judge on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals. Additionally, he worked as a legislative aide to Senator Joseph Lieberman in Washington, D.C., where he helped draft sections of the Homeland Security Bill and other technology-related legislation. Several years ago, Kwon decided to switch careers and become a management consultant at McKinsey. From there, he joined Google's business strategy group and most recently went back into consulting.

Kwon's favorite hobbies include politics, boxing, ultimate fighting and volunteering with kids. He describes himself as idealistic, compassionate and ambitious. He became passionate about creating awareness for more minority bone marrow donors in the U.S. after launching a major search to find a match for his best friend who was diagnosed with leukemia, but ultimately succumbed to the disease. "
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:00 PM   #47
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That said, I do not mind taxing people richer than myself to pay for Coast Guard helicopters to search for them. But when blond chicks go missing, there ought to be a way to use the ensuing abuse of the public airwaves to put some cash in the public fisc.
Interestingly*, in the midst of the Mount Hood Exhaustive Search Coverage, I remembered hearing someone say that in actuality there's not an immense public expenditure that's incurred to look for lost hikers, though it may appear so at first.

The reasoning seems to be that (a) many of the folks who do engage in search-and-rescue stuff are volunteers in some capacity, and don't earn a full wage by doing this stuff, and (b) some of the hardware costs, like military helicopters or whatnot, are used in these times to help train the military personnel under real conditions -- so yes, it's an expense, but they would've had training expenses anyway so it's not a meaningful additional amount.

Another trivia tidbit: Apparently the vast, vast majority of people who need rescuing aren't the professional hikers who are all decked out in the super-duper gear, but instead are just regular people who go for a walk in Yosimite or something and just get terribly, horribly lost.

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Old 12-18-2006, 05:03 PM   #48
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Back in the day when I was fit enough to ski Tuckerman's, we'd study the weather obsessively and pack up to 80 pounds* worth of gear per person for a relatively easy day hike that required no technical climbing equipment. Everybody would bring a sleeping bag, foul weather gear, goggles, water, and food and withing the group there would be a tent, camp stove, first aid kit, cell phone, fire starters, etc. Any sign of a storm or inclement weather coming and we'd put off the trip for another time.

They've started charging for rescue efforts in the White Mountains.

*OK the 80 pounds included a pony keg for apres-ski on Lunch Rocks. We wanted to make sure we had plenty of fluids with us.
I worked with a GP who was on Everest the time all those guys died. The time when the one guy knew he was dying and called his wife. there was the book, etc.

GP was one of the ones who turned around about 300 feet from the summit- ( God that would be a bitch) -everyone who didn't turn then died.

Before that he was telling his goal was to climb the tallest mountain on every continent. He told me about the one in antartica. The mountain wasn't so tall, but it was a week long snomobile ride to it, then back. He tells me his buddy had done it, and on the way TO THE MOUNTAIN a snow storm comes up. they are locked in their tents for a week. Finally the storm slows and they get on their snowmobiles and continue to the mountain.

Okay. Assuming you don't go insane after a week in a tent, can you imagine going on. I can't. but at least that guy had already invested the time and money to be there. My GP was still planning on going AFTER hearing the story.
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:07 PM   #49
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won has enjoyed a diverse career straddling both the private and public sectors in law, business and technology. He practiced a mix of litigation, appellate, transactional and regulatory work at several law firms. He also served as a judicial clerk to a federal judge on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals. Additionally, he worked as a legislative aide to Senator Joseph Lieberman in Washington, D.C., where he helped draft sections of the Homeland Security Bill and other technology-related legislation. Several years ago, Kwon decided to switch careers and become a management consultant at McKinsey. From there, he joined Google's business strategy group and most recently went back into consulting.
And he's 31? So in seven years, he's had a clerkship, worked at "several law firms," worked as an LA, went to McKinsey, then google, and back. Does even GWNC change jobs that often?
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I don't understand this shit either. If you're going to hike somewhere extremely dangerous that requires expensive equipment and the risk of additional life because they may have to send someone out to find your dumb ass, you should have to pay a huge fee to pay rescuers to be available and post a bond that will be drawn should a rescue mission be necessary. If you go without doing this, you should be thrown in jail as soon as your dumb ass is rescued and the accompanying fine should be for double the amount of money it took to rescue you.

And if I ran the news, the most you'd get out of me would be on December 31st and I would say, "568 people lost this year to various risky sporting activity ranging from hiking up a mountain in the middle of nowhere to base jumping, and in sports..."

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Right, because all this attention being paid to missing hikers means less time for the real news, likes fights among professional game players.
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Right, because all this attention being paid to missing hikers means less time for the real news, likes fights among professional game players.
You're just annoyed because a brawl broke out in spin class last week over someone taking someone else's bike and it didn't even make the Minneapolis cable access news.
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You're just annoyed because a brawl broke out in spin class last week over someone taking someone else's bike and it didn't even make the Minneapolis cable access news.
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Interestingly*, in the midst of the Mount Hood Exhaustive Search Coverage, I remembered hearing someone say that in actuality there's not an immense public expenditure that's incurred to look for lost hikers, though it may appear so at first.

The reasoning seems to be that (a) many of the folks who do engage in search-and-rescue stuff are volunteers in some capacity, and don't earn a full wage by doing this stuff, and (b) some of the hardware costs, like military helicopters or whatnot, are used in these times to help train the military personnel under real conditions -- so yes, it's an expense, but they would've had training expenses anyway so it's not a meaningful additional amount.

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Uh, carry on.

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I think I read somewhere in the coverage that most of the people out looking for these guys are mountaineering types who volunteered.

I've been lost in the woods a grand total of once. I was at Perdinales State Falls when I was probably 12 or 13 on a camping trip with my Girl Scout troop. My best friend and I decided to go walking in the woods after dinner (those foil packet things that you throw on a fire, irrc), and we took a wrong turn at a tree and the next thing we knew, we were in unfamiliar territory. I had an extreme false sense of security walking into those woods, because I had spent pretty much my entire childhood walking in about 500 acres of woods. These woods, I had assumed, were no different to navigate than the woods that I was used to. It took us about two hours to make our way to a road and then follow the road back into the camping area. That was a pretty scary two hours.

When we triumphantly returned, no one had realized that we were gone.

Since then, I generally stick to the trail in unfamiliar woods.
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And he's 31? So in seven years, he's had a clerkship, worked at "several law firms," worked as an LA, went to McKinsey, then google, and back. Does even GWNC change jobs that often?
"several law firms" probably includes his summer associate stints.
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"several law firms" probably includes his summer associate stints.
If true, he should be embarassed to include those for the press materials.
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