Merry Generic Winter Day-Off With No Religious Content

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
Right before I woke up this morning, I had a dream that a pregnant woman I had just met (in the dream) got into bed next to me and masturbated. WTF?

This post is really helping me with my "six-pack abs" resolution.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Are you asking me out?

TM

Constantly.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I don't recall Laimbeer playing dirty.

Right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SSK9...elated&search=

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SSK9...elated&search=

TM

did you watch the second play? those teams weren't too friendly back then. the Laimbeer/Bird play wasn't really that dirty- especially for the time. Watch the angle from the basline. Bird got Rodman and Laimbeer in the air, Laimbeer is falling and he grabs Bird. Not that dirty. contrast that with Parrish sucker punching Laimbeer in the second play.

PS can you imagine how hard it was to listen to Tommy Heishon (sp? that is him isn't it?) doing play by play on those games. Parrish was justified? NWTF?

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
did you watch the second play? those teams weren't too friendly back then. the Laimbeer/Bird play wasn't really that dirty- especially for the time. Watch the angle from the basline. Bird got Rodman and Laimbeer in the air, Laimbeer is falling and he grabs Bird. Not that dirty. contrast that with Parrish sucker punching Laimbeer in the second play.

PS can you imagine how hard it was to listen to Tommy Heishon (sp? that is him isn't it?) doing play by play on those games. Parrish was justified? NWTF?

"Laimbeer is falling and he grabs Bird." Is that really what you see when you watch that? God love ya, Hank, but when it comes to the Pistons, you live in an alternate reality. The sign of a true fan, I suppose.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
did you watch the second play? those teams weren't too friendly back then. the Laimbeer/Bird play wasn't really that dirty- especially for the time. Watch the angle from the basline. Bird got Rodman and Laimbeer in the air, Laimbeer is falling and he grabs Bird. Not that dirty. contrast that with Parrish sucker punching Laimbeer in the second play.

You are as delusional about the Pistons as ppnyc is about her looks.

1. Laimbeer tackles Bird. There is absolutely no other way to look at it. He grabs him by the neck and bends him over backward. He wasn't falling and just grabbing someone by reflex to keep himself up. He is taking Bird down and doing it in such a way that could cause serious harm. If you don't think that is an intentional dirty play, you're either lying or retarded. I know you play ball. If that happened to you, you would lay the guy out.

2. Laimbeer threw more elbows than anyone before Mutumbo perfected it. In the second clip, instead of boxing out clean, he leads with his elbow right into Parish's throat. And as the announcer said, it was probably the 500th time he did it.

That was his whole game. Cheap shot you over and over and then flop like a fucking fish when someone got frustrated and started playing as or more aggressively. He thought he was brilliant with the theatrics and the faces because he thought that getting under someone's skin was the best way to gain an advantage. He was a fucking asshole.

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
"Laimbeer is falling and he grabs Bird." Is that really what you see when you watch that? God love ya, Hank, but when it comes to the Pistons, you live in an alternate reality. The sign of a true fan, I suppose.

watch the angle from the baseline. it's about 3 1/2 minutes in.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
watch the angle from the baseline. it's about 3 1/2 minutes in.

I did. While that angle makes the foul appear less outrageously flagrant then the other angle, it looks like a horrible and intentional take down from all angles. As for the second foul, you're right that Parrish's reaction was in no way justified. Laimbeer weakly starts waving his elbow at Parrish's face and Parrish completely lost it on Laimbeer. He should have been ejected and it looks like he did not even get the foul. But it is still dirty play by Laimbeer. I mean, think about the kind of cumulative abuse it takes for Parrish to lose it. The guy got busted with something like three pounds of marijuana mailed to his house, and pretty much admitted getting high before every game. He should have been one real mellow dude.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
Johnny Most was so biased it was comical.

Indeed. It was probably him paraphrasing Isaiah's quote about Bird that Ty and I remember.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
"Laimbeer is falling and he grabs Bird." Is that really what you see when you watch that? God love ya, Hank, but when it comes to the Pistons, you live in an alternate reality. The sign of a true fan, I suppose.

If Hank could announce, he would be Detroit's version of Johnny Most.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Indeed. It was probably him paraphrasing Isaiah's quote about Bird that Ty and I remember.

why isn't the Isiah quote on you tube?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You are as delusional about the Pistons as ppnyc is about her looks.

1. Laimbeer tackles Bird. There is absolutely no other way to look at it. He grabs him by the neck and bends him over backward. He wasn't falling and just grabbing someone by reflex to keep himself up. He is taking Bird down and doing it in such a way that could cause serious harm. If you don't think that is an intentional dirty play, you're either lying or retarded. I know you play ball. If that happened to you, you would lay the guy out.

From the baseline view- Rodman and Laimbeer are in the air. When Bird starts his move Rodman gets undercut and goes flying. Laimbeer in coming down on Bird- and Laimbeer is a big guy. To this point there's nothing wrong- agree? You do a fake in the key, your goal is to get guys to land on you.

Now Laimbeer grabs Bird- you say to pull him down- but this is a guy who is clearly off balance and falling. Look again at Rodman- there are big bodies flying all around. I say it might be instinct- or more likely he is trying to make sure Bird doesn't get a shot off. NBA rule, at least then, was if you foul someone make sure they don't get the shot off. It's not possible to you that is what happened? Keep in mind it is a really big guy who is falling while it's happening.

In the context of the hate between the Piston and Celtics bigs, Bird's reaction is predictable. But I believe Bird's reaction and the Celtic toady announcer has more to do with this being remembered as a dirty play, then the reality.

AND I do admit I'm really biased so maybe I'm wrong- but next time how about a Thurgreed/ Yankees analog instead of this PPNYC stuff?

2. Laimbeer threw more elbows than anyone before Mutumbo perfected it. In the second clip, instead of boxing out clean, he leads with his elbow right into Parish's throat. And as the announcer said, it was probably the 500th time he did it.

he pushed an elbow back to hold Parrish back. It was blind- he wasn't aiming for the throat. AND you know that any strong rebounder takes and gives those dozens of times every game.

s his whole game. Cheap shot you over and over and then flop like a fucking fish when someone got frustrated and started playing as or more aggressively. He thought he was brilliant with the theatrics and the faces because he thought that getting under someone's skin was the best way to gain an advantage. He was a fucking asshole.

TM

He led the NBA in rebounding once and would have done it again if we hadn't gotten Rodman. He had the best (only?) 3 point touch for centers back then. And every other arena hated him 100%- which is probably the main reason we loved him.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
why isn't the Isiah quote on you tube?

Are you saying it never happened? Or are you just saying we don't remember it right?

(And I suspect the answer is because it was a locker-room interview by one of the local stations, not a national press conference)

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Are you saying it never happened? Or are you just saying we don't remember it right?

(And I suspect the answer is because it was a locker-room interview by one of the local stations, not a national press conference)

Well one of us remembers it wrong, and if we had the tape we could know who. Plus, if I had a copy, with the photoshop skills I have, i can make sure you remember it wrong.

we have always been at war with eurasia!!!!

[Tables R Us]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I resolve to be friendlier.

eta: and to eat 3 ounces of all-bran at every meal.

You get any friendlier with the flower, and his penis will thank you for eating all that bran.