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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
From the baseline view- Rodman and Laimbeer are in the air. When Bird starts his move Rodman gets undercut and goes flying. Laimbeer in coming down on Bird- and Laimbeer is a big guy. To this point there's nothing wrong- agree? You do a fake in the key, your goal is to get guys to land on you.
Now Laimbeer grabs Bird- you say to pull him down- but this is a guy who is clearly off balance and falling. Look again at Rodman- there are big bodies flying all around. I say it might be instinct- or more likely he is trying to make sure Bird doesn't get a shot off. NBA rule, at least then, was if you foul someone make sure they don't get the shot off. It's not possible to you that is what happened? Keep in mind it is a really big guy who is falling while it's happening.
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You are 100% out of your mind. Laimbeer wraps his arms around
Bird's neck
and intentionally takes him down. I've watched it from every available angle
and there is no way I will ever agree with your read.
And I really don't think you believe it either.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
In the context of the hate between the Piston and Celtics bigs, Bird's reaction is predictable. But I believe Bird's reaction and the Celtic toady announcer has more to do with this being remembered as a dirty play, then the reality.
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You believe wrong. There isn't a game in the world where a player could do this to another player
and not get into a fight. Period.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
AND I do admit I'm really biased so maybe I'm wrong- but next time how about a Thurgreed/ Yankees analog instead of this PPNYC stuff?
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Sure. Didn't mean to offend on that level. How's this?: Reading your post is like listening to one of the boneheaded Yankee fans (
and I'll admit there are a few) trying to justify Clemens' throwing of the bat at Piazza. I am losing respect for your take on basketball --
and that's the one area in which you generally tend to make sense.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
he pushed an elbow back to hold Parrish back. It was blind- he wasn't aiming for the throat. AND you know that any strong rebounder takes and gives those dozens of times every game.
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Bullshit. Strong rebounders box out. They use their ass, ability to position themselves, desire
and the power in their legs to rebound. Laimbeer
leads with his elbow, which he is deliberately throwing in the general vicinity of Parish's face
and throat. We all know he did it over
and over again. In fact, leading with your elbow like that doesn't get you any advantage over a strong rebounder because you aren't in proper position to box out
and you give the guy you're trying to cheap shot a chance to simply out leap you.
People throw elbows because they aren't athletic or skilled. They do it to make better players concentrate on something other than what they're supposed to. It's fucking annoying
and if you do it, someone will eventually clock you for it. Ask Kobe.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
He led the NBA in rebounding once and would have done it again if we hadn't gotten Rodman. He had the best (only?) 3 point touch for centers back then. And every other arena hated him 100%- which is probably the main reason we loved him.
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All that may be true, but he was cheap shot artist
and a flopper too.
And outside of Detroit, he will be remembered more for that than anything else he's ever done.
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