Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I don't disagree. I fell into fringey's trap. I know little about criminal law, other than faded memories, and nothing about sentencing statutes.

Dude, she disn't trap you. She merely cited an obvious disastrous result of what your propose.

But its all silliness anyway. RT nailed it a few posts back... Roe ain't going anywhere anytime soon, so this has been a whole lotta handwringing over nothing.

No sensible politician wants to flip Roe. The party in charge when that happens is going to get blamed for the biggest waterfall of legislative problems and state level gridlock in the nations' recent history.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
When you do the English spelling thing, I get this picture of a campy, foppish right winger. I'm picturing a Graham Norton crossed with Tucker Carlson and Bill Bennett. You're doing fruity and angry at the same time. You cheeky bitch.

Tally ho!

[Flinty_McFlint]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am against the death penalty. I used to be fully pro-choice and pro death penalty.

Now I am pro-limited abortion and anti-death penalty.

does that make you feel better? I give good foot massage. nttawwt.

I'm obsessive-compulsive. I need consistency and internal order. So yes, I do feel better. Thanks.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

No sensible politician wants to flip Roe. The party in charge when that happens is going to get blamed for the biggest waterfall of legislative problems and state level gridlock in the nations' recent history.

When I am not being virulently partisan (ie irl) I actually root for gridlock. the less government gets done the less problematic effect.

The reason I voted for Perot in 92 is that he would have ensured a perfect storm of gridlock.

IRL, I could care less about liberals or conversatives, I am anti-big government and elected officials.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I find your use of black kitchenware offensive.

I am offended by someone so offensive finding anything offensive.

Maybe this whole subject was the wrong road to go down. I wish we had just stuck to talking about Hillary's prospects for 2008.

BTW, she says hi!

eta: I know this is offensive, but it is okay because I was just doing it to piss Carville-lite off

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am offended by someone so offensive finding anything offensive.

Maybe this whole subject was the wrong road to go down. I wish we had just stuck to talking about Hillary's prospects for 2008.

BTW, she says hi!

eta: I know this is offensive, but it is okay because I was just doing it to piss Carville-lite off

How is that offensive?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I don't disagree. I fell into fringey's trap. I know little about criminal law, other than faded memories, and nothing about sentencing statutes.

So you think abortion should always be completely legal, on demand, etc., and have just donated a whopping sum of money to NARAL? Cool.

If not, please explain how you have revised your opinion as to the penalties and who is subject to them. Thanks.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account

Is this a picture of you in your new foppish style? Nice ascot.

ETA: But do something about those hips. You run triatholons? My ass. You look like you've an advanced case of the Kleinfelters.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
How is that offensive?

Two words, black pant suit.

Seriously, I don't think I have ever seen a woman who had absolutely no variety in her clothing. Until Hillary. At first, back on infirmation.com, even I thought that the many posts perseverating on her ubiquitous black pantsuit were a little beyond the pale but at this point I really wonder whether the Junior Senator from NY simply has no fashion whatsoever; doesn't own a mirror; is colorblind; and/or is trying to send some type of encrypted message to her more militant followers (or RedChinese handlers).

However, to preempt the conjecture, if she wears that thing because she thinks that black can help slim her overwhelming hips and behind, she is seriously deluding herself. Hell, if it only worked!

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
So you think abortion should always be completely legal, on demand, etc., and have just donated a whopping sum of money to NARAL? Cool.

If not, please explain how you have revised your opinion as to the penalties and who is subject to them. Thanks.

I think abortion should be limited to first trimester and situations post-first trimester that materially jeopardize the mortality of the mother.

I think that people who get paid to write statutes and who are more expert on sentencing equities should come up with the specifics. Certainly there must be appropriate criminals statutes on the books in Texas related to non-doctors who assist in the termination of a pregnancy. Even a requested termination.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Is this a picture of you in your new foppish style? Nice ascot.

ETA: But do something about those hips. You run triatholons? My ass. You look like you've an advanced case of the Kleinfelters.

Just for you, I'd make this my avatar, but it already was an avatar of one of my socks and I hate being derivative like that.

[dtb]

Originally posted by SEC_Chick
The thing about amnio and cvs is that the chance of miscarriage due to the procedure is about the same rate as defects are confirmed by the procedures. Mr. Chick and I have been discussing how much screening we'll have done. Unfortunately, the non invasive ones like neuchal transleucency (ultrasound) and triple screen (maternal blood test), etc. have an extremely high rate of false positives. Since we won't have amnio or cvs due to the risk, and we definitely won't terminate the pregnancy in the event of a problem, the issue is does the chance for peace of mind from a negative outweigh the freaking out we'll do if it's positive (since we won't do more invasive testing to be certain). In the event that there is a problem, would you rather have the opportunity to read up on the condition and possible resources, or have a stress-free pregnancy at the price of having a freak-out and being unprepared at birth.

The risks of amnio, however, are somewhat misleading, as they take into account all amnios, throughout the nation. If you factor out the poor hospitals/clinics/PAs (generally in rural areas, or public hospitals in urban areas) that perform them the risks of miscarriage from amnio are very, very small. After maternal-age 35, even if you include the "backwoods" amnios in the sample group, the risk of miscarriage resulting from an amnio is lower (as a percentage chance) than the risk of having a child with a genetic abnormality. (Which is why amnios are recommended for women over 35.)

(hope this isn't a stp situation, but if it is - meh)

[SlaveNoMore]

Sidd Finch
I guess that non-fulminating, able to talk rationally Slave can only survive so long.

"I GOTTA BE MEEEEEEEEEE"

[SlaveNoMore]

No, the "opt out" concept is premised on that fact that (i) you can unilaterally trump the "rights" of the mother over the fetus, but (ii) the father has no say in the matter.

Assuming that arbortion is a "defined" right, then why is this right gender specific? Why is the man not allowed the right to have equal rights to terminate? And if not, then why not allow him to "opt out" if the female declines?

1) The argument that "it's her body, she chooses" really doesnt work, because he then has a legal obligation to pay for 18 years thereafter.

2) I would also suggest that it if is indeed a defined right or entitlement, then declining the male any say in the matter - when his fiscal rights are seriously at issue - violates the Equal Protection clause

3) The repsonse "well, he chose to do it" can easy be countered with the argument "well, so did she". Yet you chose to give her an easy out, and he has no say for 18.75 years.

[SlaveNoMore]

ironweed
Thanks for posting that, since I would never read anything written by Coulter but still (inexplicably) have not placed you on ignore yet. It confirms that she is, indeed, just as mean, vicious and dumb as I always thought she was.

He would have posted it under his Raggedy Ann Coulter sock, but he apparently lost the log-in.