Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Are you saying that you don't whiff, or that you don't say whiff when others do? Because if you are suggesting that I whiffed here, that's just patently ridiculous.

No, it's wonk. He's still catching up and he's now up to 2003.

wonk Politics Spoiler:

Bush wins

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Good on you that you are proud of them. I am proud for you. Excellent foreshadowing of your overall PB persona.

I have never bothered to reply seriously to you because your posts do speak for themselves (that is, you look like an ass, though you apparently don't realize this), but in light of your pride in your early work, let me fill you in on a thing or two.

My first post to you was a joke post. It was a combination penske riff (that is why there were a number of acronyms in it) and Hank not-so-inside reference to his signature block at the time (the constructive criticism thing). I don't generally reply substantively to people on the politics board because I come to these boards for amusement, not to bicker with people about partisan politics. Frankly I think both political parties in our country could stand some serious competition based on their failure to do much beside pander to their loudest constituencies, but I digress. In addition, it was clearly a slow day for me, because I only read the PB on slow days.

So I posted a joke post and you flipped your lid. Fine. You are nothing if not a literalist. So I engaged a bit and then you go off on this rant making some assumption that you know anything at all about me, my personality off the boards and my ability to hold pleasant conversation. Interesting engagement style. Seems defensive to me. Others pointed this out to you and you jumped their shit too. Good times.

The reason why I reposted yesterday is that paigow thought I was being mean to you with the "social cripple" bit. I thought she should understand that you are the one who threw that around initially. Just some context, if you will. Paigow has told me in the past that my dealings with you amused her, and I'm sure she was curious as to why I am so mean to you, because generally I get along with most people here. Mainly because fighting with people would decrease my enjoyment of the boards, so I have no particular interest in doing so.

But, your arguing style on this board in particular is offensive. I am not the only one telling you so. I may have been the first person you were an asshole to, but I am by no means the last. A prime example would be your engagements with dtb and Ty yesterday. You have a condescending, know-it-all demeanor here and you consistently mischaracterize the viewpoints of those arguing with you. Just not pleasant to be around. You characterized dtb's arguemnts as pro-Castro when her posts yesterday clearly established that she is personally quite anti-Castro and his regime for reasons far more developed than the shit you spew here. All she was telling you was that from her personal experience he is quite popular there. And in you view that makes her pro-Castro. Maybe you should look more for nuances and shades of gray in people's viewpoints instead of reading positions counter to yours in some sort of absolutist light. People here are smart (sebby excluded) so you should give them some credit instead of playing "liberals are evil" absolutist games. And you shouldn't condescend to them unless your goal is to look the fool.

So it turns out social cripple fits. Well played, playa.

This is as much energy as I intend to expend on you today, so don't count on some PB debate over whether or not you are in fact an ass with me. I'm heading over to the FB to enjoy myself with people I actually like.

Point of Clarification. When you said "social cripple" I thought you were being mean to those who cannot walk in the way God intended.

Originally posted by Spanky
It is funny you say this because when I find people unpleasant to be around I avoid them. Yet ever since our little exchange you follow me like the plague. Every time I started a new thread you were one of the first to show up. I suggested that you go away before but as I remember it you told me I would have to get used to you.

The great thing about this board if you don't like someone's posts you can simply ignore them and not respond. If people find my posts so offensive they can ignore them. I know I ignore many people's posts.

You clearly don't like reading my posts. So here is a suggestion - don't. Why don't we just pretent that the other one doesn't exist? Then we can each go our merry way. Deal?

Uh oh, he is busting out the Ignore List. I invented that.

And, I cannot ignore Megalo's post, whichi s grossly unjust but part of his despotic polityical prisoner system.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Uh oh, he is busting out the Ignore List. I invented that.

And, I cannot ignore Megalo's post, whichi s grossly unjust but part of his despotic polityical prisoner system.

Perhaps the U.S. will invade. The Insurgency doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Uh oh, he is busting out the Ignore List. I invented that.

An olive branch of tribute, maybe?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Its like John Cougar wisely sang, "There's winners, and there's lo-hoo-sers." Somebody's gotta be down for somebody to be up. Its the human condition.

John Cougar has never said a wise thing in his life. And when did he and Huey Lewis and the News become Classic Rock? Don't have you to be good before you can be considered a Classic?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
To what extent do you think a country's refusal to ratify a human rights treaty demonstrates that the country's government is less moral than those that have ratified the treaty?

Depends on their reasons for not ratifying.

Originally posted by Spanky
John Cougar has never said a wise thing in his life. And when did he and Huey Lewis and the News become Classic Rock? Don't have you to be good before you can be considered a Classic?

John Melloncamp has said a lot of wise things including for example "I need a lover who won't drive me crazy." "Will you marry me" to Elaine Irwin, "Lets do Farm Aid", and "Its a lonely old night. can i put my arms around you?". And he put out one of my alltime favorite albums, The Lonesome Jubilee. Paper and Fire is some good shit.

ANd he is my father.


Can someone else handle the Huey Lewis part? Is Patrick Bateman in the house?

ETA: My apologies in advance if I have open the door to a farm subsidies debate. I am firmly against corn syrup and the Fats that it grows.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by paigowprincess

Can someone else handle the Huey Lewis part?

The entire catalog is genius.

Huey is to 80's music revivals as chips/salsa are to the quality of a Mexican restaurant. They are all that really matters.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Spanky
And when did he and Huey Lewis and the News become Classic Rock?

Huh. I thought the lyric called out Motley Crue.

Originally posted by Gattigap
Huh. I thought the lyric called out Motley Crue.

I wonder what sebby thinks about John C Melloncamp's use of non traditional musical instruments (well they are traditinoal , but not to music of its era) in Paper in Fire? I bet he agrees with me it was well done.

Sebby. Crowes are in town this weekend. Thanks again for the NYC hookup. Well worth it.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I wonder what sebby thinks about John C Melloncamp's use of non traditional musical instruments (well they are traditinoal , but not to music of its era) in Paper in Fire? I bet he agrees with me it was well done.

Sebby. Crowes are in town this weekend. Thanks again for the NYC hookup. Well worth it.

First, thanks for the corn syrup/J. Cougar posts. The funniest thing in the last month.

I like John Cougar. He incorps the alternative instruments perfectly. Underrated. Pink Houses is a better slice of Americana than the Boss could write in 100 albums.

Crowes played Atl City last weekend. Couldn't get tix.

You're welcome, of course. Glad to help.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
First, thanks for the corn syrup/J. Cougar posts. The funniest thing in the last month.

I like John Cougar. He incorps the alternative instruments perfectly. Underrated. Pink Houses is a better slice of Americana than the Boss could write in 100 albums.

Crowes played Atl City last weekend. Couldn't get tix.

You're welcome, of course. Glad to help.

For the love of God - isn't there anyone else on this board who wretches every time they hear Mr. Mellancamp? These people not only like John Cougar but they admit it openly. Isn't that the first sign of the apocolypse or something?

[Hank Chinaski]

Spank sezFor the love of God - isn't there anyone else on this board who wretches every time they hear Mr. Mellancamp? These people not only like John Cougar but they admit it openly. Isn't that the first sign of the apocolypse or something?

How I knew PLF was riffing on us was when his top 5 all time albums had ZERO JC/M on it. Have you ever been to his flat? Its like a shrine, or I guess is one. the first time he masturbated was to the Jack and Diane video.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I'd call him a despot, but I don't know WTF illegitimate means in the context of the statement. Yeh, he grabbed power in a revolution. But that doesn't make him illegitimate.

No, his illegitimacy is based, not on how he grabbed power, but on how he retains it. Legitimacy is a concept rooted in the belief that power is derived from the governed, not the governing, and Castro derives next to nothing from his people. He is the new Lenin, the older Pol Pot, the original banana-republican. People who express admiration for Castro are the same people who deplore unfairness while pushing socialism, and, if that doesn't cause logical clashes within your brain, well, stay way over there, please.