Meh.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I have something to add to this, but it could be outable.

She might want you to pull it out.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by dtb
Hey! Stop trying to out me!

Not only that, but I hear from other posters that you live in New York. Possibly even in NYC itself.

Hah!!!

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by dtb
As long as it isn't about my grandmother...

Except for her birth date, not really.

[Sparklehorse]

Originally posted by barely_legal
Yes, let's talk about outing. I bet I've spent more time with Paigow over the past four years than anybody else on this board. She's had numerous opportunities to out people to me, either deliberately or inadvertently. She has never provided with me enough information about any one poster that I could figure out who that person was.

However, there are other people on this board, one in particular (who has not, to my knowledge been banned) who has outed so many people to me both deliberately and inadvertently that a bunch of people on this board would crap their pants if I made a list. A few other posters have inadvertently outed people to me too. None of them have been banned. I've accidentally provided potentially outable information in private forums, and I haven't been banned.

Everybody has accidentally dropped info about another poster to someone else on im or in person. If we banned everybody who did that, this board would be more of a graveyard than it already is. Before we accuse Paigow of outing people, or of creating a viable threat of outing, I'd like to know what she's posted on a public forum that could actually lead to a real outing.

What exactly is the definition of outing here?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by barely_legal
Yes, let's talk about outing. I bet I've spent more time with Paigow over the past four years than anybody else on this board. She's had numerous opportunities to out people to me, either deliberately or inadvertently. She has never provided with me enough information about any one poster that I could figure out who that person was.

However, there are other people on this board, one in particular (who has not, to my knowledge been banned) who has outed so many people to me both deliberately and inadvertently that a bunch of people on this board would crap their pants if I made a list. A few other posters have inadvertently outed people to me too. None of them have been banned. I've accidentally provided potentially outable information in private forums, and I haven't been banned.

FWIW, I can't think of any compliants that I've received about outable information being posted here, except from Paigow. Doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. I just don't get complaints about it.

And for further clarification, paigow hasn't been banned. She asked to be deleted. To the best of my knowledge no one has been banned from this forum for posting outable information.

Is it the understanding of the people on this board that the administration is supposed to ban people for outting that may occur off the board?

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by barely_legal
If that poster is too much of a pussy to let people know that they are leaving the board specifically b/c of Paigow, I'm not so sure they are a great loss. And it's been a few years since we left Infirmation. We've lost tons of posters in that time -- how many of them are b/c of Paigow? Anybody who can't stand to be attacked occassionally probably shouldn't be posting on a board like this.

Yes. Agreed.

On a broader note, down with pussies. There is no room on this board for pussies. Or for suckers. I am officially starting my "No More Pussy Ass Sucker Asses" campaign.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls . . . .

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
FWIW, I can't think of any compliants that I've received about outable information being posted here, except from Paigow. Doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. I just don't get complaints about it.

And for further clarification, paigow hasn't been banned. She asked to be deleted.

You are right, she hasn't been banned. But it's my understanding that she asked to be deleted because none of the moderators or administrators on this board would promise her that her posts would not be altered to include information that she finds offensive and/or potentially outable.

It's one thing to edit a post to remove offensive or outable information. I have no problem with that at all. It's purely another thing for a moderator to edit somebody's post to ADD information that is insulting, offensive and potentially outable. If anybody had done to me what was done to her this weekend, I would do a hell of a lot more than just ask for my account to be deleted.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by barely_legal
If anybody had done to me what was done to her this weekend, I would do a hell of a lot more than just ask for my account to be deleted.

What would you do?

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
What would you do?

I'd out your flowery ass. And I could do it b/c somebody (not Paigow) outed you to me! Ha! And your petunia apparently is not as dainty as you'd have us believe....

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by barely_legal
You are right, she hasn't been banned. But it's my understanding that she asked to be deleted because none of the moderators or administrators on this board would promise her that her posts would not be altered to include information that she finds offensive and/or potentially outable.

It's one thing to edit a post to remove offensive or outable information. I have no problem with that at all. It's purely another thing for a moderator to edit somebody's post to ADD information that is insulting, offensive and potentially outable. If anybody had done to me what was done to her this weekend, I would do a hell of a lot more than just ask for my account to be deleted.

Pussy.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by barely_legal
I'd out your flowery ass. And I could do it b/c somebody (not Paigow) outed you to me! Ha! And your petunia apparently is not as dainty as you'd have us believe....

My flowery ass would like nothing better than to be outed by your barely legal ass.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
She might want you to pull it out.

I don't think that's what she meant by "outing."

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by barely_legal
You are right, she hasn't been banned. But it's my understanding that she asked to be deleted because none of the moderators or administrators on this board would promise her that her posts would not be altered to include information that she finds offensive and/or potentially outable.

That was not what I was told, and certainly her complaints were being and are being addressed. You may have more complete information than I do.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Hell, I could have written this. Agreed on all points.

The laundry list sort of thing can be an outing tool, if done with that intent (see, e.g., the ancient fable of Latrell Spreewell and Transition Defense). That's not Paigow's schtick. She remembers stuff and posts it when it's funny, not in any effort to out anyone. If you're worried, don't post personal stuff. Or make shit up.

I'm only aware of one instance where someone's boss was contacted. By Cornhole. Because of Penske. See, this is really all Penske's fault.

Let me publicly state I hold no ill will or grudges and would happily buy the first round at a sit down with mcbvr6 and/or socialist agenda. Platonically, iykwim, nttawwt.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
FWIW, I can't think of any compliants that I've received about outable information being posted here, except from Paigow. Doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. I just don't get complaints about it.

I see a concensus arising here. Can we just agree on a no one-gives-a-shit-about-outing policy? Change the board policy from here on out that outing just isn't a bad thing? I'm okay with that.