General discussion - Mom and Dad Esq.

[Sparklehorse]

Originally posted by TexLex
That's cool. He sleeps in our bed half the time, so I'd actually prefer he not roll. I'm trying to figure out how to stabilize him. Weighting him down clearly doesn't work.

What is the current thinking about having a child sleep in the same bed as the parent(s)? Does this size of the bed matter? What about the size of the people in said bed? Is the concern SIDS or smothering?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
What is the current thinking about having a child sleep in the same bed as the parent(s)? Does this size of the bed matter? What about the size of the people in said bed? Is the concern SIDS or smothering?

Both the Monster and the Princess did in their respective times. I can't scientifically prove any connection, but if I was as self-confident and secure as either one of them, I'd have real friends to talk to and wouldn't need to spend so much time on chat boards.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
Is the concern SIDS or smothering?

drunk fatties rolling over and crushing the younguns.

[nononono]

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
What is the current thinking about having a child sleep in the same bed as the parent(s)? Does this size of the bed matter? What about the size of the people in said bed? Is the concern SIDS or smothering?

People who are against it are concerned about he kid getting rolled over on, or sleeping on softer bedding than cribs have, or getting caught in blankets; other arguments include not getting the child impossible to get out of the bed when you are ready.

Proponents say it's extremely rare for kids to get squished this way (by extended cab red pickups is another matter, apparently) unless alcohol/drugs are involved (bigger issue), there are protective barriers to use if you want, it promotes bonding, it may be easier on the mother in terms of not having to get up to feed the baby.

I was adamantly against it with my first, which was dumb because she never slept more than an hour or so in the early months and took at least an hour to get back to sleep each time she woke. She was in a bassinet then moved to crib in next room. With the next one, who started out as a more regular predictable sleeper, I gave in early and had her sleep next to me. It wasn't much more restful, but enough. Getting her into the crib at 4 months was a challenge,but it went smoothly enough.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Point of the Year. RT deals with Penske every day and he acts like a 4 year old*. Just think of how you deal with Penske, but with the possibility that he will grow to be more mature.

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2. This is just like dealing with an adult dog. They get to the emotional maturity level of a 3 yo and top out. No reasoning with them from there. Sit. Stay. Heel. A minute maybe and then its right back to the transgressive behaviour.

Maybe a pinch collar?

[Nut Penske]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
2. This is just like dealing with an adult dog. They get to the emotional maturity level of a 3 yo and top out. No reasoning with them from there. Sit. Stay. Heel. A minute maybe and then its right back to the transgressive behaviour.

Maybe a pinch collar?

Heel, boy. Heel.




OK,





Now roll over and play dead.

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
What is the current thinking about having a child sleep in the same bed as the parent(s)?

Ours doesn't usually sleep with us anymore, though some nights he stays with us for the last leg of sleep (6am-8am) and I occasionally nap with him. He slept with us much more often the 1st 2 months. We have a King bed, smaller and it wouldn't work for us - I need room to stretch. Also, no way could the kid sleep between us, my husband would crush him - he's a heavy sleeper and he's even rolled on me without noticing. So, I scootch way over on hubby's side and the baby sleeps between me and the edge, but far enough from the edge that he couldn't roll off, even if he rolled over (he can't do B to F yet anyway, only F to B).

Caveat - no way would I have him in bed if I was a heavy sleeper, he was a preemie or had poor muscle control, or we smoked.

See also:

AAP Recommends Breastfed Babies Sleep in Parents’ Bedroom

Dr. Sears speaks out against new AAP policy on co-sleeping

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
2. This is just like dealing with an adult dog. They get to the emotional maturity level of a 3 yo and top out. No reasoning with them from there. Sit. Stay. Heel. A minute maybe and then its right back to the transgressive behaviour.

Maybe a pinch collar?

once they're older you probably need to neuter them, unless you wanna breed them someday.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Nut Penske
Heel, boy. Heel.




OK,





Now roll over and play dead.

Is this a threat? Harassment is a violation of the ToS.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
once they're older you probably need to neuter them, unless you wanna breed them someday.

Your wife asked me not to have the operation. She likes to live on the edge.

[Nut Penske]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Is this a threat? Harassment is a violation of the ToS.

You mean like posting copyrighted material?

No, it's not a threat.

Sit boy, sit.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Your wife asked me not to have the operation. She likes to live on the edge.

By the way, to all the Dads, once you've had all the kids you want the wife may start in about you needing to get cut. I can give you the name of a Doc to consult who will say its too dangerous for the benefits. That way you can keep your options open.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by TexLex
Ours doesn't usually sleep with us anymore, though some nights he stays with us for the last leg of sleep (6am-8am) and I occasionally nap with him. He slept with us much more often the 1st 2 months. We have a King bed, smaller and it wouldn't work for us - I need room to stretch. Also, no way could the kid sleep between us, my husband would crush him - he's a heavy sleeper and he's even rolled on me without noticing. So, I scootch way over on hubby's side and the baby sleeps between me and the edge, but far enough from the edge that he couldn't roll off, even if he rolled over (he can't do B to F yet anyway, only F to B).

Caveat - no way would I have him in bed if I was a heavy sleeper, he was a preemie or had poor muscle control, or we smoked.

See also:

AAP Recommends Breastfed Babies Sleep in Parents’ Bedroom

Dr. Sears speaks out against new AAP policy on co-sleeping

Same here. Both light sleepers, king bed, good-sized strong baby, no smoking, and wouldn't do it if we had had something to drink that night. I have baby between me and the edge of the bed only because my husband sometimes jerks his arms in his sleep, and would be devastated if he hit baby involuntarily, even if baby weren't hurt. I've also got one of those bedside co-sleepers right next to the bed, so on the chance baby rolled off (nearly impossible, as I have my arm around baby and amazingly, I don't move when we're set up like that, despite having been a very restless sleeper before) it wouldn't be a fall.

I read the warnings against it and I had my concerns at first, but it went so well in the hospital -- and it made me, and I think baby, really, really happy (I don't know if I've ever been more content as I am when this child is nestled next to me).

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
(I don't know if I've ever been more content as I am when this child is nestled next to me).

Bookmark this post for quick reference when you catch your husband getting blown by some skank in a public restroom.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Nut Penske
You mean like posting copyrighted material?

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What type of slanderous allegation is this? Hank, is that you?