A disgusting vat of filth that no self-respecting intelligent person would wade into.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If 90% of airplane hijackings have been committed by Muslims, I'm willing to believe that JFK captained the only PT boat lost in the Pacific Theater.

Since 1970 who else has been hijacking american planes and killing US citizens aboard those planes? I think I remember some Cuban guy vaguely. But haven't at least ninety percent been done by muslims?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

You have airport security not (just) because of the guys who keep trying to beat it, but also because of the guys who would take advantage if it weren't there. And D.B. Cooper wasn't Muslim. Nor are many people who hijack airplanes around the world. According to that Wikipedia page, "Since 1947, 60% of hijackings have been refugee escapes," which is the answer to Hank's suggestion.

I agree with S_A_M that while I thought Pelosi was saying that people shouldn't be stopped solely on the basis of their religion, she may have meant that it shouldn't be considered at all. If she meant the latter, I disagree. If the former, I take it no one has a problem with it.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Spanky
Since 1970 who else has been hijacking american planes and killing US citizens aboard those planes? I think I remember some Cuban guy vaguely. But haven't at least ninety percent been done by muslims?

Here's a list of notable hijackings

It appears that other than 9/11, every american plane that was highjacked was by an american.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Spanky
Since 1970 who else has been hijacking american planes and killing US citizens aboard those planes? I think I remember some Cuban guy vaguely. But haven't at least ninety percent been done by muslims?

http://www.emergency-management.net/...ror_hijack.htm

this is not a complete list.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Here's a list of notable hijackings

It appears that other than 9/11, every american plane that was highjacked was by an american.

1 guy jumped out of the plane. 1 was FedEx, so not the same security. So you mean other than the 4 taken on 9/11 the other one was taken by a guy with an American name.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
1 guy jumped out of the plane. 1 was FedEx, so not the same security. So you mean other than the 4 taken on 9/11 the other one was taken by a guy with an American name.

So, you mean, either way the sample size is too small to be relevant?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
So, you mean, either way the sample size is too small to be relevant?

Yes. Let's look at non-US also.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Yes. Let's look at non-US also.

Who have passed through US security lines? Spanky's free to remind us that any foreign country can shake people down as much as they want.

I don't think a hijacking of a plane in a banana republic is particularly relevant to anything, other than it's easy to highjack a plane in a banana republic. Indeed, as I look at the list and the number in principally arab countries I could just as justifiably reach the conclusion than muslims highjack planes as I could reach teh conlcuions that muslim countries have crappy airport security.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Who have passed through US security lines? Spanky's free to remind us that any foreign country can shake people down as much as they want.

I don't think a hijacking of a plane in a banana republic is particularly relevant to anything, other than it's easy to highjack a plane in a banana republic.

it doesn't help identify a pool of the motivated? those planes tended to have Jews and Christians on them also- wouldn't they had the same hijacking opportunities?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
it doesn't help identify a pool of the motivated?

Who on the board disagrees with you about this? Are you really that dense? How do other people in your office see when you are absorbing all the light?

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Who on the board disagrees with you about this?

Nancy Pelosi.

I believe she posts under the handle "Sexual Harrassment Panda"

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
wouldn't they had the same hijacking opportunities?

Not if security is better. Ever been through security in a 2d rate country? EVen security in a first rate country like Germany isn't enough now--they have supplemental lines for those on US bound flights.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Who on the board disagrees with you about this?

burger and I posted lists, then we looked at them. that's called getting informed, of course we both posted potentially unreliable sources, so we actually might have been getting misinformed. then burger made a statement summarizing something from his list. then I suggested a problem with his summary, and then we exchanged statements with regard to my suggested p[roblem. then he said foreign airport hijackings are really not relevent. then I suggested a reason they are.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Not if security is better. Ever been through security in a 2d rate country? EVen security in a first rate country like Germany isn't enough now--they have supplemental lines for those on US bound flights.

I'm saying there are non-muslims getting on planes in those same airports. you're saying they would only be on US bound flights?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
burger and I posted lists, then we looked at them. that's called getting informed, of course we both posted potentially unreliable sources, so we actually might have been getting misinformed. then burger made a statement summarizing something from his list. then I suggested a problem with his summary, and then we exchanged statements with regard to my suggested p[roblem. then he said foreign airport hijackings are really not relevent. then I suggested a reason they are.

When I said, "Who on the board disagrees with you about this?", the "this" referred to the single sentence of yours that I quoted, not to the running exchange of hijacking data posted and linked here. But thank you for illustrating my density point.

No one here thinks it's a bad idea to consider someone's religion in trying to find hijackers. Everyone thinks it isn't sufficient.