Still Hating America.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
Its not like they have got any other options. Or is there an option I have not thought of?

Which takes me back to my original point. In the long run, is it reasonable to think that we can keep Iran from building nuclear weapons, if that's what they want to do?

[andViolins]

Originally posted by Spanky
1226 GMT -- PALESTINIAN NATIONAL AUTHORITY -- Palestinian National Authority (PNA) President Mahmoud Abbas and officials from the rival Hamas group, including PNA Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh and Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal, began crisis talks in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, on Feb. 7. The leaders vowed to remain in the country until they have reached an agreement to end the fighting.

The question will be how fast the Europeans and the U.N. crumble and end the embargo now that Hamas and Fatah are playing nice. Well, at least nice for the next five minutes.

aV

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Which takes me back to my original point. In the long run, is it reasonable to think that we can keep Iran from building nuclear weapons, if that's what they want to do?

Depends how you view "long." The way I view it, yes.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You may believe it strongly, but simply repeating the point is not a good way to convince others.



See above.

You averred that I thought Assad was a religious zealot and that someone had to be religious to be anti American. So I pointed out you were wrong on both points: I never said he was a religious zealot and someone does not have to be a religious zealot to be anti - American.

That is not repeating myself that is pointing out a few erroneous assumptions on your part.

These sorts of comments don't add to the conversation, they are simply annoying.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Which takes me back to my original point. In the long run, is it reasonable to think that we can keep Iran from building nuclear weapons, if that's what they want to do?

Sorry. I missed that. I agree with you. If Iran wants to build a nuclear weapon I don't think we can stop it. Slave and Penske you may commence your cannonades.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
Sorry. I missed that. I agree with you. If Iran wants to build a nuclear weapon I don't think we can stop it. Slave and Penske you may commence your cannonades.

More than anything I am sad. I know you don't hate the Jews, but why are you willing to condemn them to a second holocaust without some fight?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
These sorts of comments don't add to the conversation, they are simply annoying.

I agree. But enough discussion of your posting style.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
More than anything I am sad. I know you don't hate the Jews, but why are you willing to condemn them to a second holocaust without some fight?

You have any idea what the Vegas line on Iran v. Israel would be?

In that war, any "second Holocaust" would be very Arab. If Islam wants to go back the Stone Age where it prospered, war with Israel is a good start.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You have any idea what the Vegas line on Iran v. Israel would be?

In that war, any "second Holocaust" would be very Arab. If Islam wants to go back the Stone Age where it prospered, war with Israel is a good start.

Unlike most of the liberals here I am a culturally competent anti-biased sensitively compassionate communitarian of the planet Earth, and as such I feel the need to point out that Iraniis are not Arabs. they are Persians. So in your posit, the second Holocaust would be a Persian one.

I point this out because my Iranii friends bristle at the notion that they are Arabs. I am not sure why......it may be the dresses the dudes in Arabia wear. No offence.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You have any idea what the Vegas line on Iran v. Israel would be?

In that war, any "second Holocaust" would be very Arab. If Islam wants to go back the Stone Age where it prospered, war with Israel is a good start.

So far we have "nuking them" as a way to prevent Iran from developing its own nukes, in the long run. That was Penske's suggestion. Anyone else? Anyone? Bueller?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

The Pentagon's inspector general says Doug Feith et al. cooked the intelligence concerning ties between Al Qaeda and Iraq to tell senior policymakers what they wanted to hear rather than what the intelligence community was thinking.

Everyone but the wingers already understands this, but it's nice to have confirmation from the Pentagon.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Charles Krauthammer is stealing Spanky's ideas?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
So far we have "nuking them" as a way to prevent Iran from developing its own nukes, in the long run. That was Penske's suggestion. Anyone else? Anyone? Bueller?

I think that there should be a time limit for responses before we, you and I, Ty, as the Co-Mods, draft an open letter to the Administration with our Board's recommended course of action. Noon, ET, today?

[Replaced_Texan]

KKK using immigration to boost recruiting

The Ku Klux Klan is stepping up its activities in some parts of the country, a trend that its leaders and opponents tie to anti-immigrant sentiment.
In the past year, the Klan has rallied or distributed fliers in Bloomington, Ind.; Amarillo, Texas; Denison, Iowa; and elsewhere. In each case, the white-supremacist group denounced illegal immigration or targeted communities with growing immigrant populations.

"It surprised me they came," says police Sgt. Randy TenBrink in Amarillo, site of a rally in August by the Texas chapter of the Empire Knights of the KKK. It is the only local KKK rally he knows of in 30 years. "The content of their message surprised me. It was so disjointed."

The anti-immigration wave has always felt racist to me, so it doesn't surprise me in the least that the racists are using it to further their cause. Good.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Spanky
You averred that I thought Assad was a religious zealot and that someone had to be religious to be anti American.

No, he didn't.

You apparently drew that implication from his post, which I (for one) did not. He was just commenting on Assad as an explanation for his opinion on the issue.

S_A_M