Still Hating America.

[SlaveNoMore]

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Wind power kills birds. Why does Al Gore hate the eagle so?

It also kills the view off the Cape.

This is why the Kennedys and other rich NE Democrat friends-of-Al have been steadfastly blocking the building of a new windfarm off the coast of Taxachusetts.

[SlaveNoMore]

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
When did you last have the opportunity to vote for a national candidate who was not a pompous, hypocritical blowhard?

Well played, Player!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Reading is hard!

"Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch . . . ."

But wait, does 100% really mean all? And does Green mean green! Did Hank write the Clinton "is" speach?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Adder
And, once again Spanky, this comes down to me wondering how you can see the world as so perfectly black and white.

What does this mean? You say I write inflammatory posts that are simply made to cause conflict and then you make a sweeping, generalized accusation post like this. Sometimes I see the world as Grey, sometimes I see it as black and white.

When I take one position or another, do you think I don't do a sufficient job of supporting my positions?

Do you not think some issues are clearly black and white, or do you see the whole world as relativistic grey?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And despite these steps, he's still using 2000% more than Joe Sixpack in a house that GGG notably points out is not his primary residence.

Facts are a bitch.

True, but you want to watch that "facts are a bitch" thing. After all, your guy's view of the world is that he makes his own reality. Cue: Iraq.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
But wait, does 100% really mean all? And does Green mean green! Did Hank write the Clinton "is" speach?

I'm not sure about this, but I am glad the administration takes global warming seriously and is committed to reducing the consumption of electricity, starting in Iraq.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Adder
Something has happened in the last thirty years. Global temperatures have continued to rise. That is what global warmin means. That some of the more drastic predicted possible results of that warming have no yet happened does not mean that there is nothing to be concerned about.

Do you have anything to support this? Do you have conclusive evidence that the world is warmer today than it was in 1977? Or actually, compellig evidence that the world has increased in tempature every year since 1977. I have seen conjectures, guesses and estimates, but nothing solid. Have you seen something that I have not?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
But wait, does 100% really mean all? And does Green mean green! Did Hank write the Clinton "is" speach?

turns out it doesn't. go read my post. TVA has like 28 coal power plants, 3 nuke plants and a sprinkling of "green" plants. It makes no effort to segregate the power to Al's house. Take a think break- how does electricity get to Al's house, and to the house next door to him? What if only one wants green power? Al is burning power just as dirty as the next guy. He is just paying a little more so more wind turbines can get built. But maybe if he and his fat friends would cut down on what they use, TVA can CLOSE a coal plant. that might actually help.

when it comes to this type crap you guys show up as such unapologetic suck ups. My god, he isn't even a real candidate for you- just admit he is full of shit. or turn off your computers to save energy!!!!!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Spanky
Do you have anything to support this? Do you have conclusive evidence that the world is warmer today than it was in 1977? Or actually, compellig evidence that the world has increased in tempature every year since 1977. I have seen conjectures, guesses and estimates, but nothing solid. Have you seen something that I have not?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The guy is saying the average person should sacrifice. I didn't read the stuff on the screen while the hot chick* was singing his song, but I caught a little. He is suggesting turning down temps, turning off lights etc. Meanwhile, he is burning 8 times what the average person burns. That he can afford "carbon credits" and argues that this makes him sanctified is really quite gross. First, he is burning 8 times what I do. He should stop it. Does he really need all 80 rooms heated? Close a wing. That he buys "carbon credits" misses the point.

If he bought "carbon credits" AND closed a wing, he would actually be helping under his definition. Shouldn't a leader lead?

But of course what is most absurd is that he alleges he is trying to save the planet. That means show the masses how to change their lives to reduce the emissions. The masses are struggling to pay rent this month. they can't buy "carbon credits." The whole concept is something invented to make rich people feel less hypocritical while they preach.



*I couldn't take my eyes off her, Melissa something. Anyone know who is abnging her?

2. You notice that this pathetic defense did not contain any denials, or saying that the facts of the Gore's energy consumption were in error. Just that these evil people were "atatcking him". If a statement of the the facts are an attack, it is your problem not the people speaking the truth. And what a great defense. I am not saving energy, but I am paying other people to save energy so it is OK. So the next time I get a fine for not recycling can I tell the City of Palo Alto that I am paying some poor people to recycle so I shouldn't have to?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
turns out it doesn't. go read my post. TVA has like 28 coal power plants, 3 nuke plants and a sprinkling of "green" plants. It makes no effort to segregate the power to Al's house. Take a think break- how does electricity get to Al's house, and to the house next door to him? What if only one wants green power? Al is burning power just as dirty as the next guy. He is just paying a little more so more wind turbines can get built. But maybe if he and his fat friends would cut down on what they use, TVA can CLOSE a coal plant. that might actually help.

when it comes to this type crap you guys show up as such unapologetic suck ups. My god, he isn't even a real candidate for you- just admit he is full of shit. or turn off your computers to save energy!!!!!

by the way, I'm going running. I'll be back at 5. unless someone posts something really really smart in reply to this I'm taking 2 wins.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Spanky
Do you have anything to support this? Do you have conclusive evidence that the world is warmer today than it was in 1977? Or actually, compellig evidence that the world has increased in tempature every year since 1977. I have seen conjectures, guesses and estimates, but nothing solid. Have you seen something that I have not?

http://www.slate.com/id/2160830/

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
by the way, I'm going running. I'll be back at 5. unless someone posts something really really smart in reply to this I'm taking 2 wins.

oh, and from the TVA site I linked earlier:

• How does green power benefit the environment?
  The environmental effects of traditional energy sources like coal, natural gas, oil, and nuclear power can be significant. Although no source of energy is impact-free, renewable resources create less waste and pollution. In fact, an investment of an additional $8 per month on your power bill buys enough Green Power Switch to equal the environmental benefits of planting an acre of trees in the Tennessee Valley.

so it's greener, not green. all Ty did was point to another attempted lie from Al gore.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Spanky
What does this mean? You say I write inflammatory posts that are simply made to cause conflict and then you make a sweeping, generalized accusation post like this. Sometimes I see the world as Grey, sometimes I see it as black and white.

This means (as was clear from the context) that I am amazed that you are certain that all sociologists are mere ideologues with no academic standards based on your personal observation (not academic audit, mind you) of the handful that you have merely met.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
oh, and from the TVA site I linked earlier:

• How does green power benefit the environment?
  The environmental effects of traditional energy sources like coal, natural gas, oil, and nuclear power can be significant. Although no source of energy is impact-free, renewable resources create less waste and pollution. In fact, an investment of an additional $8 per month on your power bill buys enough Green Power Switch to equal the environmental benefits of planting an acre of trees in the Tennessee Valley.

so it's greener, not green. all Ty did was point to another attempted lie from Al gore.

Whoa, tiger. Aren't you supposed to be running? Or was that another Chinaski lie?


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