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07-19-2007, 06:28 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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When they're not shrimping, that is.
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
...there's nothing wrong with eating pasta or sugar or bread so long as you don't go overboard with them.
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Is that the sort of nautical lingo Houstonians are prone to use?
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07-19-2007, 06:29 PM
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#3347
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Moderator
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Jack Russell Terrier
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
It's not carbs. It's calories. Carbs happen to have a lot of quick and easy calories, so you can't eat as many of them if you're trying to lose or maintain weight, but there's nothing wrong with eating pasta or sugar or bread so long as you don't go overboard with them.
And the formula of figuring out calories in and calories out really easy, but the execution can be damned difficult. It's not a walk in the park, and most people fail at it.
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And the totally ironic thing is that more walking in the park and there would be less failure. I mean, it's like millions of spoons.
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07-19-2007, 06:30 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Jack Russell Terrier
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Yes. If you don't eat a fuckload carbs you'll stay on the Atkins. If you eat carbs, no... Atkins probably won't be sustainable.
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Not sure what you're saying here -- I've never tried Atkins, but it doesn't seem like anyone can go forever without eating carbs. What you need is a way of eating that you can sustain for your whole life. That means limiting your carbs and limiting fat, salt, etc. To pretend that you can cut it out entirely for the rest of your life is ridiculous. Surely there is someone who can do that, but there aren't many people who can.
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Stop eating bread and pasta and sugar. Stop ordering lattes and all that shit at Sbux and order coffee, with skim milk for creamer.
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Yes to the first sentence, but
nononononononono to the second. Skim milk has 21g of sugar per serving, and half and half has 1g. The extra fat in half and half is not that much (a gram or two) but almost no sugar. Sugar is way more a hindrance to losing weight than fat is. A diet doctor once advised me that for weight loss (not maintenance, LOSS), don't consume things that have more than 3g of sugar, or 7g of fat.
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
And run. Don't go to the gym. Run. You can do it anytime, so you have no "I couldn't get to the gym" excuse.
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Weather is the kick in the (in my case, proverbial) balls for running. If it's too hot, cold, humid, or rainy, it's so hard for me to get my ass outside. But eating carefully (in a way that you can sustain it forever) is much more important than exercise for weight-loss purposes.
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Or stay fat. But make up your goddammed mind about it already.
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Exactement.
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07-19-2007, 06:30 PM
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#3349
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Well, yeah, but you can also slowly cut through food with a spoon. Or melt the spoons into one giant knife. So I think it holds up.
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But what do you do with the rain? Make rainbows?
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07-19-2007, 06:31 PM
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#3350
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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Jack Russell Terrier
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
And the totally ironic thing is that more walking in the park and there would be less failure. I mean, it's like millions of spoons.
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This is not true. Just a different kind of failure.
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07-19-2007, 06:32 PM
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#3351
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Moderator
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Baaaaa
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Yes, that is brilliant lawyering.
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Sure. His goal was to get his client acquitted, and so he wanted the jury to like his client, identify with his client, sympathize with his client, empathize with his client, etc. Managing their perceptions of OJ was part of his strategy, and the "dressing" of OJ's house in particular was very well done.
I don't feel like re-educating myself about the trial, but my recollection was that Cochran also did an excellent job in the courtroom in questioning witnesses (certainly better than F. Lee Bailey or any of the goofballs from the DA's office). And Barry Schreck's shredding of the DNA testimony was masterful.
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07-19-2007, 06:35 PM
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#3352
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Moderator
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Originally posted by dtb
If it's too hot, cold, humid, or rainy, it's so hard for me to get my ass outside.
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Maybe you would have less time with your indoor ass if you were less of a weather pussy.
I suppose you are now going to make some comment about how I am using the old "females are inferior and therefore calling someone a pussy is an insult" schtick.
Well, yes. Yes I am.
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If he looks within he finds beauty and power.
I am not sorry.
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07-19-2007, 06:41 PM
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#3353
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Jack Russell Terrier
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Maybe you would have less time with your indoor ass if you were less of a weather pussy.
I suppose you are now going to make some comment about how I am using the old "females are inferior and therefore calling someone a pussy is an insult" schtick.
Well, yes. Yes I am.
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I think she's more of a weather vagina.
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07-19-2007, 06:41 PM
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#3354
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Jack Russell Terrier
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
But what do you do with the rain? Make rainbows?
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Bend up the sides of your giant knife to direct the rainwater into a valley. Then, use your 10,000 pancreas/faux kidney as a raft to float down the river you've created. It's a free ride, although you've already paid. With your kidney. Sort of.
Trust me, this is good advice that you actually can take.
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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07-19-2007, 06:42 PM
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#3355
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Moderator
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That is where spin classes come in. There is no soot in the spin room. And the spin room is kind of like a park. A really loud and kind of smelly park without any plants or grass or trees that is largely populated by buff gay men.
I am still trying to figure out the diplomatic corps having to leave Russia post. I did not even know I had a diplomatic corps. Is that who the unsolicited fellatio chicks are?
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Inside every man lives the seed of a flower.
If he looks within he finds beauty and power.
I am not sorry.
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07-19-2007, 06:43 PM
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#3356
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Moderator
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Jack Russell Terrier
Quote:
Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I think she's more of a weather vagina.
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Put down your purse and just start calling people "pussies."
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Inside every man lives the seed of a flower.
If he looks within he finds beauty and power.
I am not sorry.
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07-19-2007, 06:46 PM
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#3357
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
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Jack Russell Terrier
Quote:
Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
That is where spin classes come in. There is no soot in the spin room. And the spin room is kind of like a park. A really loud and kind of smelly park without any plants or grass or trees that is largely populated by buff gay men.
I am still trying to figure out the diplomatic corps having to leave Russia post. I did not even know I had a diplomatic corps. Is that who the unsolicited fellatio chicks are?
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But spin class is at the gym, and sebby's post was premised on being able to exercise (by running) anywhere.
I have found that the glycemic index thing, which sort of relates to the not a lot of sugar/carbs thing, is helpful because the less hungry you feel, the less frequently you are going to fuck up on your reduced-calorie diet. I mean, I don't think it's possible to reduce calories enough to lose weight without being hungry -- but being a little hungry sometimes is a lot easier than being RAVENOUS.
That said, and while beans do stick with one, I am always shocked at how many calories are in them. You'd think they were fat globules, or something.
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07-19-2007, 06:49 PM
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#3358
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They Call Me Tater Salad
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Freaky Beach, CA
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Jack Russell Terrier
Quote:
Originally posted by ltl/fb
One could perforate and infect some organ in the digestive tract -- I bet that would be really effective. Or the always popular appendicitis.
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Unfortunately only a one-time event.
I am trying to determine which is net-net more helpful:
Option 1: Lie in a bed in the wilderness without moving or eating for 8 days, hooked up to legal heroin-like substances.
Option 2: Eat 1700 calories a day and burn 900 calories a day while being ridiculed by former Marines.
Option 3: Break all nearby mirrors.
Tough call in my book.
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07-19-2007, 06:52 PM
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#3359
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Appalaichan Trail
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Jack Russell Terrier
Quote:
Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I think she's more of a weather vagina.
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If I had a nickel for every time I've heard myself referred to as a weather vagina...
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07-19-2007, 06:52 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Baaaaa
Quote:
Originally posted by Not Bob
Sure. His goal was to get his client acquitted, and so he wanted the jury to like his client, identify with his client, sympathize with his client, empathize with his client, etc. Managing their perceptions of OJ was part of his strategy, and the "dressing" of OJ's house in particular was very well done.
I don't feel like re-educating myself about the trial, but my recollection was that Cochran also did an excellent job in the courtroom in questioning witnesses (certainly better than F. Lee Bailey or any of the goofballs from the DA's office). And Barry Schreck's shredding of the DNA testimony was masterful.
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No doubt a combination of things led to O.J. getting off. Cochran and Scheck did a good job raising doubt in the jurors and convincing them that their client wasn't a bad person. The fact that the prosecutors were a pair of idiots didn't hurt. And the cops' racism and mishandling of the crime scene didn't harm OJ any either.
I guess my confusion was over the fact that you said in your post that all you took out of the case was that Cochran and Scheck were amazing lawyers (presumably because of the staging of OJ's house, which seems like the first thing anyone with half a brain would think of if the jury was going to be there). But I'm not trying to find an argument where there isn't one. I just thought there was a little more that came out of that case.
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