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Old 12-06-2009, 12:36 AM   #1921
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Re: To fuck or to cook?

Neither, Went to Fogo de Chao tonight.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:10 PM   #1922
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Dutch Oven

Are these okay or should I get the Le Creuset?

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/produc...LinkType=PDPZ1

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/produc...LinkType=PDPZ1
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:17 PM   #1923
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Are these okay or should I get the Le Creuset?

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/produc...LinkType=PDPZ1
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:36 PM   #1924
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The Martha Stewart pot has some reviews and one of them is fairly negative and detailed. Basically, complaints are that the enamel chips "easily" and the knob fell off. That won't happen with Le Creuset pots (they will chip but it takes some effort) and they will last the rest of your life.

ETA that the handle on the Kitchen Aid model looks like a hand-roaster to me.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:21 PM   #1925
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You said she *wants* the Le Creuset, no? Just drop the extra $$ (although I like Staub better) and get what she wants.

Yeah, it's $200 more, but it will *never* need to be replaced and there won't be any "does the Le Creuset [whatever] better" questions.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:30 PM   #1926
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Given the reviews by people who said their Martha Stewart one chipped, I would pass on that one.

I have an ancient plain cast aluminum one so have no opinion on which of the lovely enameled ones are best other than to avoid the one that chips.

Has Sequels mentioned what size Dutch oven she wants? That's the other consideration. I learned this weekend exactly how big a 6 qt. crock pot is -- I'm going to have to make huge quantities of stew, soups, chili, etc. to use it.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:31 PM   #1927
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You said she *wants* the Le Creuset, no? Just drop the extra $$ (although I like Staub better) and get what she wants.

Yeah, it's $200 more, but it will *never* need to be replaced and there won't be any "does the Le Creuset [whatever] better" questions.
Other brands for which this is true (cheaper competitor is probably, or even definitely, a better value, but you buy the brand name to guarantee there are no "what if" buyer's remorse):
  • Bose
  • BMW
  • Tiffany
  • Cuisinart
  • iPhone (maybe Apple generally, but that's debatable)
  • Pergo
  • Rolex

I'm missing a bunch.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:36 PM   #1928
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Other brands for which this is true (cheaper competitor is probably, or even definitely, a better value, but you buy the brand name to guarantee there are no "what if" buyer's remorse):
  • Bose
  • BMW
  • Tiffany
  • Cuisinart
  • iPhone (maybe Apple generally, but that's debatable)
  • Pergo
  • Rolex

I'm missing a bunch.
I would definitely not put Bose on that list. Typically way overpriced and not that great.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:39 PM   #1929
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Slow-cookers

Does anyone recommend one that they've had for a long time? A few weeks ago someone posted a link to the America's Test Kitchen review. But it turns out that the ones they liked most have been roundly trashed on Amazon -- basically, they work really well for a few months, then break. Usually, just after the warranty runs.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:41 PM   #1930
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Red wine hangover

What's the best cure?

Had a dinner party last night.... it was rough. But we drank some really good wine, and the food turned out quite nice.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:44 PM   #1931
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Does anyone recommend one that they've had for a long time? A few weeks ago someone posted a link to the America's Test Kitchen review. But it turns out that the ones they liked most have been roundly trashed on Amazon -- basically, they work really well for a few months, then break. Usually, just after the warranty runs.
I have a Procter-Silex 2 quart one that I've had forever and it's awesome. I mostly just use it for cooking oatmeal though. And the occasional stew. My boyfriend has a Procter-Silex one too -- his is 4 quart and he inherited it from his mother so I think it is about 6 years old. Works fine. He uses it a lot.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:44 PM   #1932
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Other brands for which this is true (cheaper competitor is probably, or even definitely, a better value, but you buy the brand name to guarantee there are no "what if" buyer's remorse):
  • Bose
  • BMW
  • Tiffany
  • Cuisinart
  • iPhone (maybe Apple generally, but that's debatable)
  • Pergo
  • Rolex

I'm missing a bunch.
I've heard this is the reason Penske became dominant in the sock market, even though your Grey Pubes sock did everything as well as his best.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:46 PM   #1933
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I would definitely not put Bose on that list. Typically way overpriced and not that great.
I think the list is not comparable because Le Creuset is known by real cooking enthusiasts to be superior to almost everything else. None of that is true with anything on Atticus' list (except for maybe the Iphone). Those things just have the perception of being better.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:46 PM   #1934
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Does anyone recommend one that they've had for a long time? A few weeks ago someone posted a link to the America's Test Kitchen review. But it turns out that the ones they liked most have been roundly trashed on Amazon -- basically, they work really well for a few months, then break. Usually, just after the warranty runs.
I've had my Cuisinart for 4 years and use it somewhat regularly. I find this reliability surprising, since we burned through 2 Cuisinart coffee makers in less than 2 years. As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, it works well, but I don't love it because the outside housing is rectangular and so it's bigger, and harder to store, than it should be for its capacity. I don't know if they've changed the design.

Since they are so incredibly cheap now, maybe the more practical (if not more ecological route) is to buy a lower end model and plan to replace it sooner than you otherwise would.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:47 PM   #1935
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I would definitely not put Bose on that list. Typically way overpriced and not that great.
Isn't that the point of the list? If someone wants Bose "X" and you get them something better, you're going to spend Christmas disabusing them of the notion that the Bose is, in fact, the best.

That said, who buys a BMW (or Rolex) and puts it under the tree?
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