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Old 08-11-2004, 07:33 PM   #1741
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Who would I want to try and convince you of anything?
If you don't get it by now- good. you are one of the weak-brained. i might try and convince Atticus or Ty and Larry of stuff, by you or Panda or GGG or sidd- you are simply tolerated for the slow pitch arguments you toss up that any one of us can slam.

fighting guys like you is how you build up a boxer to be 30-1 and ready for a championship fight even if he's really a stiff.
Guess this means bowling's off, huh?

Pity. I've been working on my technique, chico.



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Old 08-11-2004, 07:36 PM   #1742
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Who would I want to try and convince you of anything?
If you don't get it by now- good. you are one of the weak-brained. i might try and convince Atticus or Ty and Larry of stuff, by you or Panda or GGG or sidd- you are simply tolerated for the slow pitch arguments you toss up that any one of us can slam.

fighting guys like you is how you build up a boxer to be 30-1 and ready for a championship fight even if he's really a stiff.
Yes, you seem to have done a great job convincing Atticus, Ty and Larry that this is more than typical Freeper mudslinging. Perhaps I will PM one of them and they can explain to me, one of the weak-brained, how you did it.

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Old 08-11-2004, 07:40 PM   #1743
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Yes, you seem to have done a great job convincing Atticus, Ty and Larry that this is more than typical Freeper mudslinging. Perhaps I will PM one of them and they can explain to me, one of the weak-brained, how you did it.

Don't make the NotMe mistake of confusing quantity with quality when it comes to posting.
I laugh at this. When has anybody on this board been able to convince somebody else of anything?
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:41 PM   #1744
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To GOP atheists, Christmas is a day on which their offices are closed because the secretaries will quit if they are not. To all others, it is a season. To Christians, it is a twelve-day feast between December 25th (the end of the Advent season) and January 6th (Feast of the Epiphany; the beginning of Epiphany season). When you say you'll be out of the office for Christmas, does that mean you're there on the 24th and the 26th? If Kerry was across the Cambodian border on December 27th, would he be unfit to serve? December 29th? January 5th?

Next you'll be saying Washington was a liar because it was a crab apple tree.
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:47 PM   #1745
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I laugh at this. When has anybody on this board been able to convince somebody else of anything?
I'm convinced Not Me really has a hoo hah. I'm still undecided on the boob job.
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:55 PM   #1746
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To GOP atheists, Christmas is a day on which their offices are closed because the secretaries will quit if they are not. To all others, it is a season. To Christians, it is a twelve-day feast between December 25th (the end of the Advent season) and January 6th (Feast of the Epiphany; the beginning of Epiphany season). When you say you'll be out of the office for Christmas, does that mean you're there on the 24th and the 26th? If Kerry was across the Cambodian border on December 27th, would he be unfit to serve? December 29th? January 5th?

Next you'll be saying Washington was a liar because it was a crab apple tree.
Would this extended "Christmas Season" include the month of February ?

Since Steve Gardner, who actually did serve on Kerry's own swift boat from November 1968 through January 1969 says it never happened.

ETA: 2 other members of the 5-man crew on Kerry's actual crew, Bill Zaldonis and Steven Hatch, back up Gardner's statements

Besides, if Kerry really was in Cambodia, don't you think he would have filmed it (or recreated it on film) before band-aid Number 3
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I laugh at this. When has anybody on this board been able to convince somebody else of anything?
My bad. Pleading temporary insanity brought on by exposure to my coworkers and annoying outside counsel.
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Old 08-11-2004, 08:19 PM   #1748
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Seen on T-shirt on Zsa-Zsa Heinz-Kerry.

My husband went to Kampuchea and all he brought me back was a damn hat!!!

Not really, but get a load of this from WaPo. June, 2003
  • There's a secret compartment in Kerry's briefcase. He carries the black attaché everywhere. Asked about it on several occasions, Kerry brushed it aside. Finally, trapped in an interview, he exhaled and clicked open his case.

    "Who told you?" he demanded as he reached inside. "My friends don't know about this."

    The hat was a little mildewy. The green camouflage was fading, the seams fraying.

    "My good luck hat," Kerry said, happy to see it. "Given to me by a CIA guy as we went in for a special mission in Cambodia."

    Kerry put on the hat, pulling the brim over his forehead. His blue button-down shirt and tie clashed with the camouflage. He pointed his finger and raised his thumb, creating an imaginary gun. He looked silly, yet suddenly his campaign message was clear: Citizen-soldier. Linking patriotism to public service. It wasn't complex after all; it was Kerry.

    He smiled and aimed his finger: "Pow."
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Old 08-11-2004, 08:29 PM   #1749
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I'm convinced Not Me really has a hoo hah. I'm still undecided on the boob job.
[confidential to SS]No matter how many PM's you send me asking for a picture of my tits, I am not sending one to you. Not even in exchange for a plaster of paris mold of your dick. BTW - I don't even read your love poems anymore so it is a waste of your time to send them to me.[/cofidential to SS]
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Old 08-11-2004, 08:57 PM   #1750
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Weigh the evidence against Kerry -- you decide.

Swift Vet Steve Gardner on the Hugh Hewitt show (link courtesy of Slave's post above) suggests that the Mekong River was too small and barricaded to get a swift boat through:
  • HH: OK. When you were on the boat, did you ever go into Cambodian waters?

    SG: Absolutely not. That was a physical impossibility to go inside Cambodian waters.

    HH: Why?

    SG: They had four or five, at all times, boats, plus they had it wired with wire, they had concrete pylons down so that thee only time they could get through it was at high tide, and that was just so the sampans and the people that trafficked back and forth could get through.*

    * * * * *

    HH: Did you get near Cambodia and drop anybody off?

    SG: The closest we can get to Cambodia, and that's a long swim, is 50 miles.

    * * * * *

    HH: If such a mission had been undertaken, would it have been undertaken by a swift boat?

    SG: Nope.

    HH: What kind of boat would it have been undertaken by?

    SG: If something was going to be done, it would have had to have been done by a PBR.

    HH: What's a PBR?

    SG: That's one of the smaller boats that they used in Vietnam, that were water driven motors.

    * * * * *

    HH: Is that the closest you think you came, 50 miles?

    SG: I know it is, categorically. You couldn't go any farther.

    HH: Could it have happened once you left the boat?

    SG: No, you still couldn't get through that same creek.


Here's a map of the area. Note how far along the Mekong River the Cambodian border is from the ocean.



According to Gardner, it was still "tidal" there. Think about what that means about the size of the river system.

Indeed, here are some pictures of the "creek" he's talking about, west of that border (notice the size of the ship in the top picture -- just a little larger than a swift boat):







If Kerry's critics were held the same nitpicking standard of truthfulness that they're holding Kerry to, they'd have been run out of town on a rail.

* How could Gardner know this if the closest he got to the border was 50 miles? Hmm.
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I laugh at this. When has anybody on this board been able to convince somebody else of anything?

Intentionally, or not?

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Yesterday:

President Bush said on Tuesday that abolishing the U.S. income tax system and replacing it with a national sales tax was an idea worth considering.
"It's an interesting idea," Bush told an "Ask President Bush" campaign forum here. "You know, I'm not exactly sure how big the national sales tax is going to have to be, but it's the kind of interesting idea that we ought to explore seriously."


Today:

Administration officials on Wednesday denied that President Bush is considering a national sales tax, a day after the Republican incumbent created a stir by calling such a tax "an interesting idea that we ought to explore seriously."
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To GOP atheists, Christmas is a day on which their offices are closed because the secretaries will quit if they are not. To all others, it is a season. To Christians, it is a twelve-day feast between December 25th (the end of the Advent season) and January 6th (Feast of the Epiphany; the beginning of Epiphany season). When you say you'll be out of the office for Christmas, does that mean you're there on the 24th and the 26th? If Kerry was across the Cambodian border on December 27th, would he be unfit to serve? December 29th? January 5th?

Next you'll be saying Washington was a liar because it was a crab apple tree.
And remember, his first language is French, so when using English he may occassionally make a slight mis-statement.
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Yes, you seem to have done a great job convincing Atticus, Ty and Larry that this is more than typical Freeper mudslinging. Perhaps I will PM one of them and they can explain to me, one of the weak-brained, how you did it.

Don't make the NotMe mistake of confusing quantity with quality when it comes to posting.
I never said I do convince, or even "I'm sure" I've convinced. I always try and gain concession on very small points with them. they realize the wall that is a case is built brick by brick.
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2. None of this is an issue if Kerry doesn't base his entire campaign on his VN experience .

I'm confused. I thought his entire campaign was based on being Not Bush.
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