Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Replaced_Texan]

I'm happy to report that the LaRouche campaign is still going strong. One of their operatives, standing right outside a hospital, just handed me a flyer that says "LaRouche: Bush-Cheney Could Cause More Americans to Die of the Flu Than Were Killed in the 9/11 Attack." I can't say that I've read the flyer thoroughly, but it's unclear how LaRouche is going to make 42 million doses of 'flu vaccine magically appear and save America. "Treat it like a military emergecy. You have all the relevant institutions tasked to come up with an approach to this and, whatever it takes, do the job" is a little to vague for me.

In unrelated news, newborn babies are tiny.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

"If you ever give Michael Moore the transmitter during a debate again, I will bomb you like you have WMD."

TM

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy


YOU'RE NOT MY DADDY!

No caption, but comment. A friend of mine is seriously considering getting a nose job because people keep asking him if he's related to GWB.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

[sniff]

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy


Just for you dear.

Man, W is one pointy-eared motherfucker. He has elf ears.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy


Just for you dear.

No, the one of him drunk in a bathingsuit that Penzke used to post. I need to book mark it.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Man, W is one pointy-eared motherfucker. He has elf ears.

If that's not proof he is the devil, I don't know what is.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But lemme ask you this... Why is it that we can't have a party that demands fiscal responsibility and is also socially liberal? Why do social conservativism and fiscal conservativism have to walk hand in hand? If the majority of the country is really liberal republican (and from what I read about dicontent with the parties, I believe it is) why can't we have a liberal repiublican party?

Because voters will vote for the guy who's offering them money, even if it's fiscally irresponsible to do so. Hell, you've said you're voting for Bush because he's for cutting your taxes, notwithstanding his social conservatism.

And then there are the many people who want a judgmental, socially conservative government. They organize and vote.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan

In unrelated news, newborn babies are tiny.

They aren't much bigger than a fetus (and the premies are even smaller than some feti). Funny thing is, though, you aren't allowed to kill them like you can a fetus. Once they are born, they are no longer a privacy issue. Just before they are born they are a privacy issue..

[SlaveNoMore]

ThurgreedMarshall
Sinclair also generated headlines after firing its Washington bureau chief, Jon Leiberman, on Monday, for criticizing plans to air the movie.'

Actually, they fired him for talking about the details discussed during a closed business meeting to the press, in contravention of his contract and company policy.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I think it might better than one would suspect.
Currently, you are correct, there isn't a correlation between applying "leaving people alone / telling people what to do" and political parties. That's why many people have to weigh their stances on these issues. I think you and I (and SD) weigh toward the leave people alone side. But you find yourself a Republican disappointed with their stands on social issues (because the economic ones are more important to you) and I find myself a Democrat disappointed with my party's traditional (but as an aside, I think getting much better) stands on economic questions, because of how I rank the relative importance of my values. I'm okay with pandering to unions, because the alternative is to throw my hat in with people who hate gays, which I will NOT do. You tolerate aspects of the Republican platform because you will NEVER support raising taxes. It's just priorities (I'm genuinely trying to be neutral here: I understand your priorities even while I may disagree as to their relative importance).

I think the next ten years will show a reflection of a trend from the last ten years: periodically, the two parties have some big realignments in their philosophies to more accurately reflect the biggest masses of public opinion. It'll take another 10-15 years for party loyalists to realize they are in parties that don't reflect their interests (much like the defections of Southern Democrats to the Republican party in the 70s and early 80s), but I suspect you and I will find ourselves in the same party in 20 years.

Fair enough, though the priority I give to lower taxes is not out of greed - it is out of the idea that it is a limit on the amount of power government has over us. The flip side of it is that the more power (read-economic power) an individual has, the less likely the governments power will effect him, including on social issues. So I think we agree that we want government out of our lives, but disagree on the best way to accomplish it.

And in 20 years, I'll be happy to sponsor you for the party

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Actually, they fired him for talking about the details discussed during a closed business meeting to the press, in contravention of his contract and company policy.

In other news, the Titanic sunk because it filled with water, contrary to the terms of the specifications given to the shipbuilders, not because it hit an iceberg.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Actually, they fired him for talking about the details discussed during a closed business meeting to the press, in contravention of his contract and company policy.

Right.

TM

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Right.

TM

hello invented that.

[SlaveNoMore]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

"Hey Laura, Teddy here says he wants to take me for a ride in his new car. Isn't that niiiiiice?"