A frolic in Cambodia

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Girl meets Boy, and they start hanging out. Boy is dating other girl, but break-up is imminent due to graduate school in another state. Other Girl leaves, Boy and Girl start sleeping together and "hanging out." At some point here, Girl decides she's in love with Boy. Boy says stupid stuff about how he really, really likes Girl but he's "confused" and needs time to sort everything out, but he really, really likes Girl. Girl patiently gives him time and sex. Fast forward four months of time and sex. Boy starts talking about a new girl who may be able to help him out professionally. When gently pressed on the issue, Boy announces that he's probably moving in with new girl after knowing her for two weeks. Girl is heartbroken.

Nope. That's life. Love clouds the judgment. If someone doesn't love you back and you allow yourself to be strung along, then it sucks when you get dumped, but you got snowed. All's fair.

TM

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Nope. That's life. Love clouds the judgment. If someone doesn't love you back and you allow yourself to be strung along, then it sucks when you get dumped, but you got snowed. All's fair.

TM

Maybe mmmm is right and we are the same person.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
those mini-bottles of wild turkey always go over well.

I'm still a little gun shy from the time in college that I passed out cigarettes. Some parents have no sense of humor.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Girl meets Boy, and they start hanging out. Boy is dating other girl, but break-up is imminent due to graduate school in another state. Other Girl leaves, Boy and Girl start sleeping together and "hanging out." At some point here, Girl decides she's in love with Boy. Boy says stupid stuff about how he really, really likes Girl but he's "confused" and needs time to sort everything out, but he really, really likes Girl. Girl patiently gives him time and sex. Fast forward four months of time and sex. Boy starts talking about a new girl who may be able to help him out professionally. When gently pressed on the issue, Boy announces that he's probably moving in with new girl after knowing her for two weeks. Girl is heartbroken.

Greedy: I'm just interested in pain.

Hank: I have no idea if he's a little guy, but I'll find out. I'll see what I can do about some lizard shots. ETA: she's sleeping with him, so he cant' be that little...

All that means is that he's got more than three inches. Not a very high bar in any state.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I just remembered Halloween is this weekend. I don't have a lot of time to pull a costume together, so I think I'll go as an Abu Ghraib detainee and my gf as Lyndie England. Luckily it's still pretty warm here.

Also, I have learned that our neighborhood is one where kids still trick-or-treat. I have not been in a neighborhood like this since childhood and I am afraid I am a little behind the times as to what all the cool kids expect to receive as treats. I am considering baby carrots, eggs, or bibles. Any thoughts?

In your part of the world, you can simply print up tracts full of horrible mutilation quotes from Revelations and a little blurb at the bottom about how they're all going straight to hell for worshiping Satan.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Also, I have learned that our neighborhood is one where kids still trick-or-treat. I have not been in a neighborhood like this since childhood and I am afraid I am a little behind the times as to what all the cool kids expect to receive as treats. I am considering baby carrots, eggs, or bibles. Any thoughts?

Word to the wise. Trick-or-treaters are greedy little suckers. A few years back, in an effort to be a "good" house, we started handing out fistfulls of candy early on in the evening. The word got out to the rest of the trick-or-treating set, and we were deluged with short people in polyester capes. An emergency trip to Walgreens had to be made halfway through the evening.

If you really don't want to a) give out candy and b) be a target because you don't give out candy, cultivate one of the following personas:

• Elderly single woman rumored to be a witch whose house was appropriately creepy looking and whose yard was appropriately overgrown. There was fear of venturing near the house, much less knocking on the door. (My mother's version of this lady apparently went all out every single Halloween and hand made cookies and candies (back then no one cared about pre packaged candy), and was driven to tears every single year that the kids didn't come. But apparently every year she got ready, just in case. Her mother told her about it several years later, throwing on even more guilt to an already guilty conscience.)
  
• Childless, humorless couple that was always chasing kids away from their property, out of the flower beds, away from the dog, etc. Rumor had it that a gun was pulled on one kid at some point for coming within ten feet of the house. They NEVER had to give out candy.
  
• Scary middle aged guy who still lived with his parents and liked to try to talk to the neighborhood kids as much as possible. The type of guy when they interview the neighbors after having found several bodies in the attic, the neighbors aren't surprised at all. "Yeah, we figured it was a matter of time."
  
• The kid in the neighborhood that no one liked's house. Just in case you had to be nice to their parents and ended up being invited over. The same kid always came to your house, being nice to your parents and hoping that your parents would invite them over.
  
• The house with the dogs that nearly ate someone's older brother three years ago.

Otherwise, follow the crowd and try to blend in with the rest of the people buying candy at Target or Walgreens or wherever's closest.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by spookyfish
That's a broad statement, isn't it? I suspect there's a lot of grudging respect between the two fan bases, as there seems to be with all great rivalries.

I'm not denying it's true. My point is, that the Yankees are easy to hate, because their success is largely based on their enormous financial advantage over most other teams. They are able to buy the players that they need to be dominant at will, and the attitude that goes with that is unbearable to fans of other teams. I know from what I speak, as my team basically served as their Triple-A club through most of the 70's. It's like rooting for IBM, for God's sake.

Besides, it's my birthright to hate the Yankees.

Okay. Understood.

But, what is Steinbrenner supposed to do? His team is successful. Successful teams make money. He puts a hell of a lot of money back into the team to ensure their success. He plays by the rules. Other teams love to take his money when he buys their overpriced players (they don't all come via free agency), but then they bitch about how unfair it all is.

Like I said, no one said a fucking thing when Georgie spent and spent and spent all his money on the wrong players in the 80s. It's only become an issue since he hired the right people and spent in the right places.

Let's see what Boston does in the off-season. That should be interesting. It's not like they don't have the money to keep their guys. They just don't want to pay them. They run players out of town all the time by either insulting them or by short-changing them. Then they turn around and point at the Yankees and scream, "Unfair!"

And, please. I don't want to hear about Yankees fans being unbearable. No matter which team wins, their fans are unbearable. That's the way it goes. You just think Yankees fans are more unbearable than others because we have more opportunity to be unbearable.

So, what are you really so pissed about? Free agency? The way MLB is set up? Or is it the fact that the Yankees spend their money on the team and don't put it directly in their pockets instead?

TM

[ilikenewsocks]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Still the most modern (AP and Coaches) National titles (8), which are the ones usually counted by historians. And (I think) highest winning %.

Technically, Yale comes out on top there, too:

Win Loss Database Sorted by Win Pct

Yours,
Ubergeek

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ilikenewsocks
Technically, Yale comes out on top there, too:

Win Loss Database Sorted by Win Pct

Yours,
Ubergeek

Welcome back, str8.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Also, I have learned that our neighborhood is one where kids still trick-or-treat. I have not been in a neighborhood like this since childhood and I am afraid I am a little behind the times as to what all the cool kids expect to receive as treats. I am considering baby carrots, eggs, or bibles. Any thoughts?

Toothbrushes are another good choice.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Wow. That's a stupid argument. I'm supposed to forget the championships that they won the year after they've won them? All those World Series games I went to are now meaningless? I can only bring up what happened last year from now on? Boston is the better franchise because they won this year. Makes perfect sense. Wait. No. Boston is a better team this year. I'm not going to ignore history just because no one else has any.

Hey, you don't have to forget the championships; they just don't hold as much weight as the most recent championship. They may be important to you. They may mean something to you. But this year's champ is Boston. It doesn't take anything away from the Yankees' legacy, but the Yankees' legacy didn't win this year.

Boston clearly isn't the better historical franchise, just like Florida State (or any other FL school) can't compete with ND's football legacy. Nevertheless, legacies are in the past. This is now. And what the Yankees did in the past doesn't mean shit right now. You may care about the past, but stating it right now just makes you sound bitter.

But please apply your standard to yourself. Since the Yankees haven't won anything since 2000, why do you hate them so much? I bet you didn't hate them in the 80s when they outspent everyone and finished in third or below every year. So, why all the venom? Oh yeah. It's because we're a successful franchise. We've always been a successful franchise and we'll always be a successful franchise.

TM

I don't hate them for the reasons you think I hate them. I was raised to hate them, before I knew about the economics of baseball. It was shoved into my brain by my grandfather and father, who had to watch my Sox come close throughout the '50s. Before divisions and wild cards. I've always hated them. When they were good. When they were terrible.

And your last sentence contradicts a previous sentence. The Yankees haven't always been successful. They sucked in the '80s. And I hated them then too.

Hey, I know what's like. All I have right now, as an ND fan, is "most successful college football program of all time". That's why ND and Yankees fans are so alike. They're both fucking ARROGANT. They look down their noses at other teams b/c no matter what those teams do, and no matter what the Yankees/ND are doing currently, they can never compete with their legacies.

I just recently attended the ND/BC game, where BC won. ND fans were pissed, but they weren't irate or anything. The ND fans, snobs through and through, just looked at the BC fans and thought "nice win, what the fuck has your school ever done? No matter what you do, you will never be us. Never. So have your fun. Enjoy it. But we're the best all-time, and you can't change that."

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
For what it is worth, I'm a baseball purist. This victory is tainted without the Division win. (Still sweet, but tainted).

I don't like wild cards. And I don't like the DH. The presence of the P in the lineup was an important part of the WS games.

I don't like the DH either.

But I like the wild card. You can't tell me that the Yankees and Red Sox fans were less invested in the outcome of the AL East than they would have been without the wild card. And I don't think your victory is tainted at all.

And you have to admit, some of the best playoff series have been because of the wild card. Besides, you should be for it because it allows smaller market teams a better chance at making it to the Series. Boston, Oakland, Houston or Minnesota or whoever can get hot at the right time and they can take out anybody.

TM

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Right. Sorry. They showed up in Game 1 of a 7 game series. You got me.

Jesus Christ, you are difficult.

I'll agree with what Tony LaRussa said last night after the game, and then leave it at that. The Red Sox made pitches and plays when they had to, and (with the exception of game 1, which LaRussa thought they were in a good spot to win) the Cardinals did not.

The Yankees, by contrast, showed up for the games they lost, with the possible exception of game 7.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
And, please. I don't want to hear about Yankees fans being unbearable. No matter which team wins, their fans are unbearable. That's the way it goes. You just think Yankees fans are more unbearable than others because we have more opportunity to be unbearable.

TM

For the record, I don't think Yankees fans are unbearable at all (unless the fan is a bandwagon fan). I hate the team (conceptually, not necessarily the players*), not the fans. Red Sox fans are 10X more unbearable.

*well, Jeter b/c he's so fucking overrated it's ridiculous.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Toothbrushes are another good choice.

And, the leftovers are useful when you clean the spray paint off the driveway.