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Old 04-20-2005, 11:07 AM   #3091
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But I never confuse "bipartisanship" with "people who will do things my way, which is the only way."
An interesting position, given your discussion of Delay. Senior staffers from his office, and elsewhere in the GOP House leadership, are on the record as defining "bipartisanship" in almost exactly those terms after the 2002 and 2004 elections.

In other words, they will "reach out" to Democrats who agree with their proposals, but see no purpose to compromise to bring in more. The established Hastert rule that no legislation can pass the House unless a majority of the GOP members support it, speaks volumes.

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Old 04-20-2005, 11:12 AM   #3092
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The established Hastert rule that no legislation can pass the House unless a majority of the GOP members support it, speaks volumes.

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Recently, I voted at my firm on an issue where we compromised to get agreement. The compromise was not exactly what I wanted. I supported the proposal. One can support a compromise, you know. And if the majority of the House republicans don't support something. should it pass? This isn't a coalition government.
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Old 04-20-2005, 11:52 AM   #3093
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An interesting position, given your discussion of Delay. Senior staffers from his office, and elsewhere in the GOP House leadership, are on the record as defining "bipartisanship" in almost exactly those terms after the 2002 and 2004 elections.

In other words, they will "reach out" to Democrats who agree with their proposals, but see no purpose to compromise to bring in more. The established Hastert rule that no legislation can pass the House unless a majority of the GOP members support it, speaks volumes.

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No, I understand and agree. My point was, this much-vaunted bipartisanship certainly isn't coming from the Dems, either, and so it's just fun to hear anyone complain about it.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:05 PM   #3094
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Vatican Spins Off U.S. Catholic Church

In one of his first official moves, Pope Benedict XVI today announced that the Vatican would "spin off" the U.S. division of the Roman Catholic church, but retain a 49-percent stake in the new entity, called R.C. Lite.
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To counter Pope Benedict's dogmatic conservatism, several church sources said America's leading Roman Catholic politician, Sen. John F. Kerry, D-MA, is considered a shoo-in for the New-World Papacy.

"We need a pope with nuanced ideas," said one unnamed U.S. Bishop. "He needs to be a uniter, not a divider. He can't be afraid to change his deeply-held convictions in light of shifting public opinion. He must be courageous enough to keep his beliefs separate from his behavior and decision making."

If Mr. Kerry accepts the R.C. Lite leadership post, insiders say he will assume the name Benadryl XIII."


(Scrappleface, of course.)
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:15 PM   #3095
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And Clinton. If the Senate Dems had gotten Clinton to resign, Gore would have been an incumbant and almost certainly would have won in 2000. A Republican would have been forced to resign.
And here I was thinking that if Gore had let Clinton campaign for him, Gore would have won.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:17 PM   #3096
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And here I was thinking that if Gore had let Clinton campaign for him, Gore would have won.
Stay on message- Gore did win!
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:19 PM   #3097
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God FORBID they elect a Hispanic Pope considering Latin America is holding the fucking Catholic Church together. As IF there's a need for representation of the modern, nihilistic, chain-smoking, ugly, leder-hosen-wearing European-Germans, who could GIVE a crap about Catholics or any other God-fearing religion!!! Typical that this Nazi (I lose!) Pope takes the namesake of a traitorous fellow European who took a whimpy stance in World War I and who is honored by......you betcha.....Muslims. At LEAST if those whackadoo Cardinals were going to elect a European Pope, they'd have found one with typical relaxed Euro-mores, which mean Priests would have at least gotten the ticket to hit the Pooty Store. Confounding.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:21 PM   #3098
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Stay on message- Gore did win!
btw, i encountered this t-shirt yesterday. not on Ty, but it should be:

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Old 04-20-2005, 12:29 PM   #3099
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At LEAST if those whackadoo Cardinals were going to elect a European Pope, they'd have found one with typical relaxed Euro-mores, which mean Priests would have at least gotten the ticket to hit the Pooty Store. Confounding.
Um, that may have been the root problem as it is.

(Oh, wait - is "pooty" definitionally female?)
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:30 PM   #3100
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I have been in meetings for about seven days now about taking out Delay and four other incumbant Republicans. The project is is called revolt of the elders and is being headed by Pete McCloskey (former Congressman from my area and a former head of the California Republican League).


http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3136907

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/15/politics/15delay.html

http://www.poe-news.com/features.php?feat=44660

We have found candidates to run against Delay and Doolittle and are looking for a few more. I am about to become very unpopular in the Republican party. I guess, Delay plays hardball, so there will be an investigation of my life. Won't be the first. Some of you may be getting mysterious phone calls.
I'm available to run, though given my background, I won't be able to hold the religious right vote.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:35 PM   #3101
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Um, that may have been the root problem as it is.

(Oh, wait - is "pooty" definitionally female?)
Well, in this context, Pooty would generically mean "down there" and would not be gender-specific. As in, Vatican Doctrine does not allow any Pooty Store Shopping whatsoever. Anyone having to put up with one of those sleazy Europeans as their Pope should at least get the benefit of sleazy European values.

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Old 04-20-2005, 12:37 PM   #3102
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"why does the Columbine massacre surprise anyone when we teach are children that instead of being descendants from Adam, that we crawled out of some primordial ooze."

Wow. That's good.

Of course, the murder rate has been rising since the Scopes trial, so the connection between teaching evolution and murder sprees seems pretty rock-solid to me.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:39 PM   #3103
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So you have no problem with torture, I take it.

If you really think this of me, you are a complete idiot.


This phrase is approaching the use of "Nazi" as an automatic disqualifier -- it demonstrates the speaker's inability to speak and disagree rationally about an issue. Accordingly, you will understand if I decline to engage in further discussions about history with you.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:42 PM   #3104
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We have found candidates to run against Delay and Doolittle and are looking for a few more. I am about to become very unpopular in the Republican party. I guess, Delay plays hardball, so there will be an investigation of my life. Won't be the first. Some of you may be getting mysterious phone calls.

I will suggest that you and Delay and the rest of the crew settle your difference by playing poker. If their experiences are like mine, that should work out well for you.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:43 PM   #3105
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I am not missing any pattern. And I am not mourning the loss of Gingrich. Delay is totally different from Gingrich. I am trying to get Republicans elected in this state and he is my biggest problem. Not the Dems, not the Unions, but Delays mouth. He is not the speaker. He doesn't need to be in the limelight to do his job. Delay runs to the limelight like a moth to flame and he sucks at it. From a practical political standpoint his negatives outweigh his positives. You may get your rocks off when you hear him, but that doesn't help the party. The man is a liability. And its people like you that just can't see how he helps the Democrats that are going to cost us the Congress.
Sorry, I agree with Billmore here. Most voters don't even know who Delay is, especially in CA. He will have minimal effect on CA races. If you think CA Republicans are not getting elected because of Delay, you've got far bigger problems on your hands.
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