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04-27-2005, 11:59 PM
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Serenity Now
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I have a hard time believing that you think this. Certainly there is a "social/moral" judgment that people should not use drugs. But why does the government have any business regulating which sorts of drugs (e.g., coffee) are OK and which are not? Can you articulate the principle involved, other than "a bunch of Congressman want to do this, and, hey, Congress has done stupid stuff before"?
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Isn't the first question to ask "what is a drug"? Are vitamins drugs? Sugar? Fat? Nearly everything ingested causes some sort of physiological change. So what is a drug?
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04-28-2005, 12:29 AM
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Maybe, but if you go there, I go back to FDR.
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And it worked for him about as well as it is going to work for us.
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04-28-2005, 01:07 AM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Isn't the first question to ask "what is a drug"? Are vitamins drugs? Sugar? Fat? Nearly everything ingested causes some sort of physiological change. So what is a drug?
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The more you think about that distinction, the more arbitrary our drugs seem to be.
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04-28-2005, 01:08 AM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Spanky
And it worked for him about as well as it is going to work for us.
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Are you saying this isn't going to get Frist elected President in 2008? Oh the humanity!
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04-28-2005, 01:38 AM
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Are you saying this isn't going to get Frist elected President in 2008? Oh the humanity!
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Did you know that Frist's dad owns the biggest HMO in the south.
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04-28-2005, 01:54 AM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Spanky
Did you know that Frist's dad owns the biggest HMO in the south.
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Politicians like him remind you how far we are from true equality of opportunity in this country.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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04-28-2005, 02:27 AM
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For what it's worth
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Politicians like him remind you how far we are from true equality of opportunity in this country.
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I met the guy at the RNC headquarters a few years back. This was before he was majority leader. He asked me what the hell was going wrong in California. I asked him if he really wanted to know........ he said yes. I told him that every time he and those other southern boys opened their mouths they made my job that much harder. He said something about changing hearts and minds. I told him to stick to the fiscal issues and let the state parties deal with the social issues. I don't think he liked me very much. And how was I to know he would become Majority leader? I knew it was going to be a disaster when Dole gave up his senate seat.
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04-28-2005, 09:42 AM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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An Olive branch to Sidd
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Isn't the first question to ask "what is a drug"? Are vitamins drugs? Sugar? Fat? Nearly everything ingested causes some sort of physiological change. So what is a drug?
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I was going to post "Diet pills?" and add this great new fat teddy image I found- then I decided not to, for Sidd.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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04-28-2005, 11:57 AM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Maybe, but if you go there, I go back to FDR.
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You can go back to FDR all you want, but the road will still lead you to the right, eventually.
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Send in the evil clowns.
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04-28-2005, 11:58 AM
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Spanky
I told him to stick to the fiscal issues
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Because the Rs in the federal government have been handling those so well?
don't-tax-just-spend, don't-tax-just-spend.
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04-28-2005, 11:59 AM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
A chicken in every pot?
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Hank, we're all impressed both with the fact that you dated Ted kennedy and the fact that you look simply smashing in a blue turban. You can stop posting the picture, already.
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04-28-2005, 12:00 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
FDR invented judge bashing.
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Actually, I believe it was Thomas Jefferson. If not, it was certainly Andrew Jackson.
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04-28-2005, 12:04 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Mixing points on a temporal plane
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You say that like there were 4 employers. there weren't except in maybe some company towns. There are plenty of people today working for minimum wage, despite robust competition for employees between walmart, mcdonalds, home depot, etc.
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In company towns, there was generally one employer. That's why they were called company towns.
And the robust competition for employees between Wal-Mart, McDonalds, etc., in places where there is competition, has lead to those places paying above minimum wage. But only in the face of competition. But, of course, we were talking about what led to the imposition of a minimum wage, not why it still exists. Or why it still exists at a (barely) subsistence level.
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04-28-2005, 12:06 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Spanky
Did you know that Frist's dad owns the biggest HMO in the south.
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He's still a fucking idiot and a shill for the Conservative Right. If he runs, the Dems are simply going to buy the Stephanopoulos interview, play it once a day in every major city in the US, and Frist won't make it to Super Tuesday.
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04-28-2005, 12:08 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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Your 11th Amendment almost at work
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Originally posted by Spanky
Did you know that Frist's dad owns the biggest HMO in the south.
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Hospital chain. Let's not really go into HCA's issues with Medicare fraud...
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