Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
So? Raise the gas tax to pay for the troops.

I am okay with this. Let's do it.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Iron Steve
That is a more economically useful and productive subsidy than most foreign aid; our UN contribution; subsidies to keep Congress, the IRS, the SEC et al in business.......

Excellent point. So far, we've spent $200 billion in Iraq (or $400 billion, if you include the interest we'll pay on that debt).

Remind me how effective that money has been in reducing oil prices -- they were what, like $110 a barrel before the war?

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Excellent point.

I am good news person, I stopped reading at the first period, but I am sure you had lots of other great stuff in that post.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Excellent point. So far, we've spent $200 billion in Iraq (or $400 billion, if you include the interest we'll pay on that debt).

Not to worry: Iraqi oil will pay for the reconstruction.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Not to worry: Iraqi oil will pay for the reconstruction.

What's good for France is certainly good for Iraq.

[Iron Steve]

One more of the bad guys down

When are they are going to get around to Kleagle Byrd?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What's good for France is certainly good for Iraq.

You need reliable electricity to be able to enjoy brie and white wine.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Iron Steve
When are they are going to get around to Kleagle Byrd?

Coincidetally, yesterday I saw an article that Byrd wrote in his autobiography that joining the KKK was "an extraordinarily foolish mistake" that "has emerged throughout my life to haunt and embarass me, and has taught me in a very graphic way what one major mistake can do to one's life, career, and reputation."


Not the best mea culpa, but a whole lot better than Jesse Helms' abiding conviction that he was right to continue supporting segregation (see my post several days ago -- the one club responded to by saying that Helms must have learned this from Byrd)

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Coincidetally, yesterday I saw an article that Byrd wrote in his autobiography that joining the KKK was "an extraordinarily foolish mistake" that "has emerged throughout my life to haunt and embarass me, and has taught me in a very graphic way what one major mistake can do to one's life, career, and reputation."


Not the best mea culpa, but a whole lot better than Jesse Helms' abiding conviction that he was right to continue supporting segregation (see my post several days ago -- the one club responded to by saying that Helms must have learned this from Byrd)

I am not attempting to mitigate the injustice of segretation, but regardless of Helm's level of contrition, or lack thereof, there is a fairly affective cure. OTOH, you can apologize to the victims of lynching from now until we uncover the WMDs, I don't think it really does a lot for them.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Coincidetally, yesterday I saw an article that Byrd wrote in his autobiography that joining the KKK was "an extraordinarily foolish mistake" that "has emerged throughout my life to haunt and embarass me, and has taught me in a very graphic way what one major mistake can do to one's life, career, and reputation."


Not the best mea culpa, but a whole lot better than Jesse Helms' abiding conviction that he was right to continue supporting segregation (see my post several days ago -- the one club responded to by saying that Helms must have learned this from Byrd)

Strangely, I think I read the same article. The best part was when he said something like, "oh, those guys, I just joined em because all the important people in town belonged, and I only belonged for one year... from 1942-1943". And then someone dug up a letter from Byrd to the Grand Wizard from 1945 where he was like "we must stop the race mongreling in the military, I would rather move to France than serve in the military with a Negro".

I'm sure he's really, really sorry.

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Strangely, I think I read the same article. The best part was when he said something like, "oh, those guys, I just joined em because all the important people in town belonged, and I only belonged for one year... from 1942-1943". And then someone dug up a letter from Byrd to the Grand Wizard from 1945 where he was like "we must stop the race mongreling in the military, I would rather move to France than serve in the military with a Negro".

I'm sure he's really, really sorry.

It's not too late, I'm Babs has room at the Chateau.

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Strangely, I think I read the same article. The best part was when he said something like, "oh, those guys, I just joined em because all the important people in town belonged, and I only belonged for one year... from 1942-1943". And then someone dug up a letter from Byrd to the Grand Wizard from 1945 where he was like "we must stop the race mongreling in the military, I would rather move to France than serve in the military with a Negro".

I'm sure he's really, really sorry.

Oh, ps: from the archives:

In a 1946** letter when the issue of integrating the military came up, Grand Kleagle Byrd vowed never to fight in the military"with a Negro by my side." And added,

"I should rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the wilds."

He later went on to spend 14 hours filibustering against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

He also voted against Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas, the only two blacks ever nominated for the U.S. Supreme Court.

In 2001 he let slip the charmingly derogative phrase, "white nigger" in response to a critic.

Sorry indeed. The conscience of the Senate, right?


** Note: before anyone invokes the concept of youthful indiscretion, he was 29 at that time.

[Spanky]

Jesse Helms, for all his ranting and raving about socialism, was huge on farm subsidies. He especially loved tobacco subsidies. Robert Byrd is also a huge fan of farm subsidies, and they were both members of the KKK. Coincidence?

[Iron Steve]

Originally posted by Iron Steve


"I should rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the wilds."

.

Why is it when Dems make representations like this (and the moving to France thing if W is elected) that they never follow through? I wouldn't even hold the guy to the 1000 part, just die once. For principle's sake.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You need reliable electricity to be able to enjoy brie and white wine.

Well, food for oil can supply that. too.