Making Baby Jesus Cry - Page 79

Replaced_Texan · 08-12-2005, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account

As long as the liberals run a campaign predicated on the twin pillars of hating God and Freedom, i think the GOP is safe.

You forgot about celibacy.

sebastian_dangerfield · 08-12-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
FWIW, I would be in favour of mandatory one to two year service conscription for all Americans upon their 18th birthday. The service could be in the military or some other support function or civil service (for those unable for physical reasons to actually be soldiers). No exemptions.

Now that I'm nearing my mid thirties, I wholeheartedly agree.

Replaced_Texan · 08-12-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
FWIW, I would be in favour of mandatory one to two year service conscription for all Americans upon their 18th birthday. The service could be in the military or some other support function or civil service (for those unable for physical reasons to actually be soldiers). No exemptions.

I'd be totally in favor of that sort of thing as well, though I don't have a problem with people choosing the public health service or Teach for America or some other civil service, regardless of physical ability, instead of the military.

Not Bob · 08-12-2005, 01:02 PM

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Were/are any of these "children" minours when they enlisted? Were they drafted? I don't understand the issue. They are adults who made a decision to honour and defend their country and the concept of Freedom. Why would Cindy Sheehan disrespect such a noble decision of her adult son?

Nope and nope. Maybe my mother, who was very familiar with the concept of national honor and sacrifice from not eating much meat, butter, or sugar during World War II so that troops in the field were adequately supplied, didn't think that her son and the rest of the soldiers going off to Iraq were being treated by their commander in chief with the respect and and honor that seems so important to you. Maybe she thought that if Iraq was important enough for the president to gamble with her son's life, then maybe it was important enough for the sons and daughters of the men and women in Washington to sign up, too. Maybe she thought back to the Liberty Ships that her uncle helped build in two weeks in the 1940s, and wondered why troops in the field in Iraq had to buy their own kevlar vests and ceramic inserts. Maybe she remembered that you couldn't buy a new car between 1940 and 1946 because the Big Three were busy making tanks and trucks and jeeps for the war, and wondered why only one company had a contract for making armored Humvees, and was only working single shifts, while men like her son were welding scrap metal to their unarmored vehicles.

And maybe my mother thought that, because of all this, that the president demonstrated that he didn't care enough about the troops to make any sacrifice. Of course, given all her thoughts, I suppose if I posted her picture, you'd just add a comment about how ugly people always seem to hate America. Whatever.

Replaced_Texan · 08-12-2005, 01:13 PM

Wholely unsubstantiated article on weird indictments in Chicago involving Bush and Justice Stevens.

Gattigap · 08-12-2005, 01:16 PM

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Wholely unsubstantiated article on weird indictments in Chicago involving Bush and Justice Stevens.

Whoa. Uh, heavy.

Penske_Account · 08-12-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Do Baby Jesus and Full Grown Jesus hang out together? Or is it like a Clark Kent and Superman thing...

Or are there two Jesuses up there? I'm confused as to how Baby Jesus went to Heaven. They didn't crucify a baby, did they?
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Sebby, the Jesii have no age. They are all ages at all times. In this forum I invoke the image of the compassionate babyjesus, but such holy spirit is inseparable from its composite parts.

What's important to remember is that we are never alone. He is with us.

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They didn't crucify a baby, did they?

Whenever the culture of death kills a baby, it kills a part of the babyjesus. Crucifiction is a metaphor.

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And why would her son be in Heaven? He might have been gay, or masturbateed, or not been baptized, or have believed in evolution, or not gone to Church, or picked a religion other than the one true religion. You assume too much.

When one dies on the battle field in defence of God's Shining City on a Hill, one gets a free pass. The rapture of the babyjesus overrides the corporeal sins.

Penske_Account · 08-12-2005, 01:18 PM

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Works for the French.

I dont know France. It works in Israel and that is good enough for me.

Penske_Account · 08-12-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
You forgot about celibacy.

Whatever it takes. VBAMN.

Penske_Account · 08-12-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Nope and nope. Maybe my mother, who was very familiar with the concept of national honor and sacrifice from not eating much meat, butter, or sugar during World War II so that troops in the field were adequately supplied, didn't think that her son and the rest of the soldiers going off to Iraq were being treated by their commander in chief with the respect and and honor that seems so important to you. Maybe she thought that if Iraq was important enough for the president to gamble with her son's life, then maybe it was important enough for the sons and daughters of the men and women in Washington to sign up, too. Maybe she thought back to the Liberty Ships that her uncle helped build in two weeks in the 1940s, and wondered why troops in the field in Iraq had to buy their own kevlar vests and ceramic inserts. Maybe she remembered that you couldn't buy a new car between 1940 and 1946 because the Big Three were busy making tanks and trucks and jeeps for the war, and wondered why only one company had a contract for making armored Humvees, and was only working single shifts, while men like her son were welding scrap metal to their unarmored vehicles.

And maybe my mother thought that, because of all this, that the president demonstrated that he didn't care enough about the troops to make any sacrifice. Of course, given all her thoughts, I suppose if I posted her picture, you'd just add a comment about how ugly people always seem to hate America. Whatever.

This is a big who gives a shit in the same way that what my-flag-waving-no-english-speaking-penniless-swarthy-immigrant-grandparents-who-came-over-to-Ellis-Island-at-the-turn-of-the-19th-century-and-then-proudly supported-4-of-their-sons-going-to-war-in-the-40s-and-50s-to-defend-freedom-and-the-noble-causes-of-their-adopted-homeland blah blah blah think or feel doesn't make a fucking rat's arse worth of difference to national security policy.

W has made hard decisions in our national defence. We had a referundum on his performance. The hate America crowd lost the referendum. Whether or not W's kids serve in the military is irrelevant to any of it.

sgtclub · 08-12-2005, 01:26 PM

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Whoa. Uh, heavy.

Can a president be indicted? I thought just impeached?

The story is really not credible IMO.

sebastian_dangerfield · 08-12-2005, 01:27 PM

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Whoa. Uh, heavy.

Ok, there is someone crazier than Spanky. That has to be the stupidest infotainment "article" ever created.

Gattigap · 08-12-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Can a president be indicted? I thought just impeached?

The story is really not credible IMO.

Nor IMO.

Penske_Account · 08-12-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Wholely unsubstantiated article on weird indictments in Chicago involving Bush and Justice Stevens.

The liberals need to deflect the glaring spotlight of my probing questions here and on the D.U. to their presumed next presidential candidate because they know she can't answer.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 08-12-2005, 01:29 PM

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Ok, there is someone crazier than Spanky. That has to be the stupidest infotainment "article" ever created.

Indeed. Given that the grand jury is in DC, it seems like a pretty unlikely location to have a confab of this sort, and how Rehnquist, Scalia, and Olsen get in it, I have no idea.

I could buy the "fire the prosecutor" angle, but only up to a point. And, frankly, there's no way that plays these days.