Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Paigow, you have completed the journey from merely pitiable to utterly despicable. It's so very, very sad you won't recognize this even if someone quotes me, or you succumb to the urge to click on my post. The fact that you purportedly have me on ignore while continuing to post about me, and try to insult me, and ask others about me, merely serves to demontrate that you are afraid to see the truth about yourself, wshich is that you are a pathetic creature, and even if you were to obtain the admiration of this community that you so desperately crave, it would not be sufficient to fill the dark void that is your soul.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
This is truly one of your great Condescending When You Have No Right TO Posts (CWYHNTP). Its no "Please pay attention" but it ranks. You do know this is not how to win arguments. I am mostly sure Sebby would agree.

The crush is over?


Or is this the "I finally fucked him, now I can talk shit about him" phase? (If so, Spanky, prepare to be stalked. It only lasts 8 or 9 years.)

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter

Do you have a very good reason?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Do you have a very good reason?

Good enough.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Do you have a very good reason?

I forgot what I was going to say.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I forgot what I was going to say.

If a gash gapes in a dark void, does it trap any men?

This politics shit is heavy, man.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
If a gash gapes in a dark void, does it trap any men?

All signs point to no.

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Paigow, you have completed the journey from merely pitiable to utterly despicable. It's so very, very sad you won't recognize this even if someone quotes me, or you succumb to the urge to click on my post. The fact that you purportedly have me on ignore while continuing to post about me, and try to insult me, and ask others about me, merely serves to demontrate that you are afraid to see the truth about yourself, wshich is that you are a pathetic creature, and even if you were to obtain the admiration of this community that you so desperately crave, it would not be sufficient to fill the dark void that is your soul.

I miss PLF. <<sniff>>

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Gattigap
A statement demonstrating why you're a good California Republican. Somewhat like the snail darter, there is a species of Republican that views America's greatness as drawn almost exclusively from the freeness of its capital markets, and believes fiercely that all cultural issues are mere "window dressing."

Republicans in Kansas, Georgia and elsewhere may not recognize you, as their concerns may revolve more around whether Democrats really ARE trying to burn their bibles, or whether Hollywood is trying to corrupt their youth or turn them gay. The cognitive dissonance may be painful, but them's the costs of a big tent, right?

Its a two party system. And I think it works rather well. And it is the fighting within the partys that I find more interesting and more fun.



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Originally posted by Gattigap unny how we moved to frame the argument this way instead of its original point, huh? You remember what you said.

????? That statement was directly relevant to Ty's point. I was not responding to my original post, someone else was. If we have left that point it is because someone else took us here not me.

Originally posted by Gattigap [list][size=1] Country stars and NASCAR stars seem to have this same instincts. Something happens to people when they move to Hollywood or New York. They seem to forget what makes America special and start looking to other countrys as if they have got it better..

part of the problem is that many in Hollywood and New York forget what makes this country great. One of those things that has led to the success of America is the American publics distrust of government. Many people in Hollywood, New York and San Francisco seem to have forgotten that.

Originally posted by Gattigap [list][size=1]This, you may now realize, is why some people thought you were actually making an argument that there's some cultural component to why America is the greatest place ever. We all forgot to apply the Spanky Free Market Filter, and remember that really what you meant was that country music stars have the same instinct that America is great because of free markets. I'll keep scouring the lyrics databases for evidence of this -- so far, I've made it to "Drop Kick Me, Jesus, Through the Goalposts of Life."..

In the red states there is a healthy mistrust of government. That is reflected in most of the state consitutions where they limit the amount of time the legislature is in session (usually six months out of two years) and keep them part time. The general thinking is that the less time they are in there the less damage they can do. California used to have a part time legislature but the liberals got rid of it. When I have given talks in the "Red States" there is a general consensus that government should be kept as small as possible and a knee jerk attachment to free markets. Such prejudices don't exist when I talk to groups in the large cities in the Blue States. I have aslo seen this in focus groups collected from Rock Concerts and Country Concerts. I have also seen polls and focus groups from Nashville and Hollywood and they are vastly different. I find the Hollywood results scary and the Nashville ones reasurring. I believe that it is this American distrust of large government that has kept us prosperous and free and find it disconcerting that many people have forgotten that. Luckily the average American has not.

Originally posted by Gattigap There's a difference between the spectrum of views on this board, and the spectrum of views in American political thought generally. Hank, Slave and bilmore, through their giggling exchange of DU posts, consistently ignore this reality.

FWIW, I think Ty's views actually are thoughtful and pretty centrist, compared to the larger spectrum, and feel that your inclination to characterize it differently is related to your same inclination to declare in the second post of an argument that anyone who has the temerity to question Iraq policy, CAFTA, or any Bush utterance is an idiot or a moron, and just wants Saddam in power.



FWIW, I like it and praise it, but it doesn't mean I can't criticize things within the economic system that I think are misguided, wrong, or stupid. Instituting a pledge that we love America's economic system in order to convince you that we're not commie pinko leftists is, IMO, not a very interesting debating strategy.

Of the peole that I know that post to this board (from different parts of the spectrum), the consensus is Ty is pretty far to the left. That is the general impression I get also. But that is really not important is it (except for the fact that he is more fun to argue with). Ty also thinks about his posts, gives back just as good as he gets, does his research (although sometimes from sources I find dubious but I am sure he finds my sources equally dubious) often from primary sources. I like arguing with Sidd but it is not as much fun because he is not as liberal as Ty.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
All signs point to no.

Since my name is being used in the subject line, can someone please tell me what they hell you are talking about?

[Spanky]

From the LA Times Article:

Bush has proved that Republicans can win the White House without California, but "it's a tough go, even with an incumbent president," said Rhodes Cook, a nonpartisan campaign analyst in Washington, D.C. "It seems to me if Republicans are really going to be a long-running majority party, California needs to be a part of that majority. Otherwise, they're going to be a tenuous and not very long-running majority."

I keep saying this but no one seems to listen to me.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Spanky
When I have given talks in the "Red States" there is a general consensus that government should be kept as small as possible and a knee jerk attachment to free markets. Such prejudices don't exist when I talk to groups in the large cities in the Blue States. I have aslo seen this in focus groups collected from Rock Concerts and Country Concerts. I have also seen polls and focus groups from Nashville and Hollywood and they are vastly different. I find the Hollywood results scary and the Nashville ones reasurring. I believe that it is this American distrust of large government that has kept us prosperous and free and find it disconcerting that many people have forgotten that. Luckily the average American has not.

The comforting attachment to small government of red state residents doesn't keep them from taking in more federal dollars than they pay out, while the opposite is true of the blue states (as a general rule). In other words, the people who whine about big government and their crushing tax burdens are the same ones cashing the welfare and subsidy checks. Why is that?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Spanky
Since my name is being used in the subject line, can someone please tell me what they hell you are talking about?

I propose people go back and edit their posts to change the re lines instead.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Spanky
Since my name is being used in the subject line, can someone please tell me what they hell you are talking about?

That's a fair request, but do you really want to know? It has to do with insulting phrases hurled during feuds between me and another poster and slave and another poster. Some of those phrases have developed a resonance on the boards and taken on a more universal significance, or insignificance (depending on your perspective). It's basically FB nonsense that got carried over here.

Since nobody really pays attention to subject lines, we weren't sensitive enough to recognize that we may have been using your name in vain, or to note the glaring absence of a hyphen.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
or to note the glaring absence of a hyphen.

Or a period and a question mark.