Waiting for Fitzgerald

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I do think public experience is way overrated. There are plenty of good leaders in the private sphere that could do at least as good a job as the career pols.

I agree with this, and have even worked for some of them.

But how would you propose bringing this about? The business leaders I worked for/with were too busy making $$$$($$$$) to be bothered (I say this not as a criticism of them - they are very good at what they do, and make a lot of money for both themselves and shareholders, and that's a good thing).

Compulsory public service (worked for the Ancient Greeks, but then so did pederasty)?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Cindy Sheehan on GWB:

• George Bush needs to stop talking, admit the mistakes of his all around failed administration, pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq, and excuse his self from power.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cindy-...or_b_7433.html

My favorite statements by Cindy. I can't believe after this stuff anyone would do anything but distance themselves from her.

After living in a country your entire life it is so difficult to see such callous indifference on an immense scale. When I reflect on how the mother of the imbecile who is running our country said that the people who are in the Astrodome are happy to be there, it angers me beyond comparison. ......... I wonder why the government made them leave at great expense and uproot families who have been living in their communities for generations.
........... He stayed in the French Quarter and a Ward that weren't even damaged a bit. The VFP took me to the city of Algiers on the West Bank. The part of Algiers we went to was very poor and black. ............... Even though Algiers came through Katrina relatively unscathed, our federal government tried to force (mostly successfully) the people out of the community. ......... The government declared martial law, but there was no effective police presence to enforce it. Malik said the lawlessness was rampant. People were running out of food and water and they were being forced to go to the Superdome. They didn't want to go to the Superdome, because their homes were pretty intact: they wanted to stay and have food and water brought to them. A town of 76,000 people dwindled down to 3,000. The die hards were rewarded last Wednesday when the VFP rolled into town with food and water. ...................
The citizens of Algiers desperately needed help and hope before the hurricane. When I think of how many other poor neighborhoods are being decimated and made so desperate and hopeless by the failed policies of the Bush administration, it makes me so angry. .......................
One thing that truly troubled me about my visit to Louisiana was the level of the military presence there. I imagined before that if the military had to be used in a CONUS (Continental US) operations that they would be there to help the citizens: Clothe them, feed them, shelter them, and protect them. But what I saw was a city that is occupied. I saw soldiers walking around in patrols of 7 with their weapons slung on their backs. I wanted to ask one of them what it would take for one of them to shoot me. ..................The vast majority of people who were looting in New Orleans were doing so to feed their families or to get resources to get their families out of there. If I had a store with an inventory of insured belongings, and a tragedy happened, I would fling my doors open and tell everyone to take what they need: it is only stuff. .................When our fellow citizens are told to "shoot to kill" other fellow citizens because they want to stay alive, that is military and governmental fascism gone out of control. ............ If George Bush truly listened to God and read the words of the Christ, Iraq and the devastation in New Orleans would have never happened.................. George Bush needs to stop talking, admit the mistakes of his all around failed administration, pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq, and excuse his self from power. "

For you liberals that can't seem to spot inconsistency at one point she complains about the lawlessness because of the lack of enforcement, then she defends the looting, and in the next paragraph complains about the fact that there are troops to enforce the law.

I especially like the part where if Bush had truely read the words of Christ the tragedy in New Orleans and Iraq would have never happened.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by baltassoc


Compulsory public service (worked for the Ancient Greeks, but then so did pederasty)?

You make the latter reference as if its a bad thing.......Muhammed schtupped a 5 year old and they base a major cult off that.

One that the libs trumpet as the moral equivalent of intelligent design.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
My favorite statements by Cindy. I can't believe after this stuff anyone would do anything but distance themselves from her.

I especially like the part where if Bush had truely read the words of Christ the tragedy in New Orleans and Iraq would have never happened.

She is the culmination of the evolution of the demo-liberals from the (not-so) Great Society until today. Of course, Clinton exacerbated the descent of these peoples' collective psyche into the gutterish void, but LBJ, Teddy, Bobby Byrd, Joe Biden, Al Gore and Hanoi Johnny Kerry brought this group of kool-aid intoxicated lemmings to the edge of the abyss of amoral stupification. Clinton just led them over the side, and now that they have hit bottom, comes Cindy Sheehan, like a vacuous phoenix from the satanic ashes.

Sad. Really sad. I can only imagine that both FDR and Lenin are weeping in their collective hells.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I agree with this, and have even worked for some of them.

But how would you propose bringing this about? The business leaders I worked for/with were too busy making $$$$($$$$) to be bothered (I say this not as a criticism of them - they are very good at what they do, and make a lot of money for both themselves and shareholders, and that's a good thing).

Don't be cynical. Example- Paigow keeps volunteering to be a moderator.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I agree with this, and have even worked for some of them.

But how would you propose bringing this about? The business leaders I worked for/with were too busy making $$$$($$$$) to be bothered (I say this not as a criticism of them - they are very good at what they do, and make a lot of money for both themselves and shareholders, and that's a good thing).

Compulsory public service (worked for the Ancient Greeks, but then so did pederasty)?

Good question, but I don't think it's a question of $. Most of the top guys have plenty of money and are are only working because they love the game. Take Rubin as an example. He was making $25 mm a year before becoming Treas. Sec.

The real problem is that most of the business leaders that I have met are private people. I don't think it will happen, if at all, until there's a necessity, so perhaps term limits would speed that process along?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
In real heaven's gate, before St. Peter, M. Atta could claim that people tricked him too.:wtf??: :wtf??: :smash: :smack: :disbelief

Are you telling me that I should go to confession?

[sgtclub]

• German Candidates Break Election Tradition
  Sep 17 10:31 AM US/Eastern
  
  
  By DAVID RISING
  Associated Press Writer
  
  
  BERLIN
  
  
  Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and his conservative challenger both broke with long tradition against campaigning on election eve Saturday, heading to Germany's most populous state to stump for support in what has become a tight national vote.
  
  Amid polls showing some 25 percent of voters still undecided, Schroeder and Angela Merkel were in North Rhine-Westphalia to push their competing visions.
  
  Schroeder touched on all of his major themes in a 20-minute speech to 10,000 people in Recklinghausen, highlighting his opposition to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and the development of closer ties with France and Russia as foreign policy triumphs.
  
  Merkel likely would move Germany back closer to the United States, its longtime security partner from the Cold War.
  

[sgtclub]

• HERDS of mountain donkeys have been helping to bring democracy to some of the remotest areas of Afghanistan.
  The democracy donkeys have been co-opted for the task of delivering 40 million ballot papers because they can penetrate mountain passes and muddy valleys beyond the reach of other transport.
  
  More than 400 international observers are in Afghanistan to monitor the elections, and some of them have had to follow the trail of the donkeys to ensure that the precious ballot papers are not lost, stolen or damaged.
  
  The papers themselves were printed in Britain and Austria, then flown to Afghanistan in huge Russian-built Antonov transport aircraft. The contract is being paid for out of a budget of £83 million donated to the election by the EU, Japan and other countries.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sgtclub

• German Candidates Break Election Tradition
  
  
  Merkel likely would move Germany back closer to the United States, its longtime security partner from the Cold War.
  

Agreed. Kohl was a key junior partner to the Reagan-Thatcher alliance in defeating the RedRooskies. Of course then someone put Kool Aid in the lager and Germany went off the reservation into the land of Euro-irrelevance.

It would be good to see them come back to the fold, especially since we rebuilt them after they supported the Nazis and I am not sure if we have received our full ROI.

Of course the liberals will be apopletic to see real leaders back at the helm there. Boni!

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sgtclub

• HERDS of mountain donkeys have been helping to bring democracy to some of the remotest areas of Afghanistan.
  The democracy donkeys have been co-opted for the task of delivering 40 million ballot papers because they can penetrate mountain passes and muddy valleys beyond the reach of other transport.
  
  More than 400 international observers are in Afghanistan to monitor the elections, and some of them have had to follow the trail of the donkeys to ensure that the precious ballot papers are not lost, stolen or damaged.
  
  The papers themselves were printed in Britain and Austria, then flown to Afghanistan in huge Russian-built Antonov transport aircraft. The contract is being paid for out of a budget of £83 million donated to the election by the EU, Japan and other countries.

Where was this published? The bottom of page 23 of the NYTimes? Certainly the MSM doesn't want the good news to get out.

I wonder who Bin laden will be voting for?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Where was this published?

Don't remember, but the link was from instapundit.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Don't remember, but the link was from instapundit.

Let me check the trash liner and I tell you if its in the Times.

[Penske_Account]

In an effourt to bolster my bi-partisan board cred, I have changed my signature to show my solidarity with the Hugo Chavez in the revolution of the babyjesi.

PTLBJ.

[Spanky]

Donna Brazile shows leadership:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...602167_pf.html

Donna Brazile just put her head on the chopping block. The wrath she will face form her fellow Dems will be intense. She just took a huge political risk in order to help her hometown. Now hopefully the administration can follow through with a fast and efficient reconstruction plan so her actions where not taken in vain. I hope the old axiom of "no good deed goes unpunished" will not come true. I am a fiscal conservative, but this is not the time and place for it. The time to be fiscally conservative is when the farm bill, the energy bill or other such nonsense comes before Congress. Not when a disaster relief and reconstruciton effort comes before congress.