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Old 09-21-2005, 06:43 PM   #571
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Where do you think all the social programs and pork receptacles came from? Harding? Taft? Hoover?

I am all for fiscal sanity. Let's start by having a not so great society. Then move to the Flat tax, and get rid of the IRS. A lot of the SEC can go, another drag on business. Department of Education, bye bye. And so on. Of course the liberals created all this crap and it stands as testament to LBJ. Along with a lot of dead kids from the war he lost.
(a) The point is that not even the GOP pretends to want to do what you say anymore -- the party has decided it likes being in power, and weilding power -- which has severely compromised its principles and ideological purity.

(b) Nixon ran that war for longer than LBJ did.

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Old 09-21-2005, 06:57 PM   #572
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(Its a reference to old jokes about the club meetings of the Board Democrats.
Si.

We've had some success in inviting self-styled conservatives and/or libertarians who have suffered crises of faith under the governance of today's brand of Republican.

We've tried to recruit Club on several occasions, for example.

Sadly for us, we usually end up fighting over who has to bring the fair trade coffee, and never get to move on to New Business, so to that extent we share some of our party's same foibles.

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Old 09-21-2005, 07:06 PM   #573
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Don't forget the Department of Labor. Goddamn child labor laws. Let the little fuckers die in mines and factories, where they belong.
Let the market sort it out. I think outsourcing that stuff is much more cost-efficient and goes further to preserving good will. time have changed Wonk, its the 21st century. Join us!
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:08 PM   #574
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Si.

We've had some success in inviting self-styled conservatives and/or libertarians who have suffered crises of faith under the governance of today's brand of Republican.

We've tried to recruit Club on several occasions, for example.

Sadly for us, we usually end up fighting over who has to bring the fair trade coffee, and never get to move on to New Business, so to that extent we share some of our party's same foibles.

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I kind of like my response to the Kerry one - holds up well:
  • What can I say, I'm a sucker for an authentic war hero.

    Actually, I'm really just pissed off at the discretionary spending explosion over the last 3 years and the gay marriage bullshit (though, admittedly, mostly for former). If the president was being challenged this year in the GOP or if the DEMs put forth a more moderate candidate, I'd consider voting for him/her.

    ETA: I still support the President's foreign policy. My complaint is the domestic spending.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:16 PM   #575
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Bottom line is that we need a real third party alternative.
Well, take it from me:
When the pork made me sick
I found a third party
And voted Badnarik.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:23 PM   #576
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Well, take it from me:
When the pork made me sick
I found a third party
And voted Badnarik.
He said "real."
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:30 PM   #577
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He said "real."
Too bad. I was a huge fan of the Whigs back in the day. "54-40, or fight!" Good times, good times.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:42 PM   #578
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:48 PM   #579
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Bottom line is that we need a real third party alternative.
No - we just need to take our party back from the Fiscally irresponsible and the social reactionaries.
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No - we just need to take our party back from the Fiscally irresponsible and the social reactionaries.
I don't think that is a viable plan of action.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:54 PM   #581
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No - we just need to take our party back from the Fiscally irresponsible and the social reactionaries.
Sorry - there are too few of you and they are far more committed. You'll be trying to decide between Brownback and Frist for 2008.

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Old 09-21-2005, 07:55 PM   #582
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I don't think that is a viable plan of action.
Ye of little faith.

It is a two party system. Three partys ain't never going to work. If you don't fit into either party your only choice is to try and make the party fit you.
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I don't think that is a viable plan of action.
Still, I'd appreciate seeing them make the effort.

I remember vaguely those creatures known as "moderate," or "libertarian" or "fiscal conservative" or even "principled" Republicans. I just think they, like the rest of us, have been taking it in the teeth for the last 5 years or so by the current crowd running this joint, and I've wondered what happened to them.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:58 PM   #584
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Sorry - there are too few of you and they are far more committed. You'll be trying to decide between Brownback and Frist for 2008.

Merde- beaten by fb!
Yes - but I can outlast them. My great great grandfather was a Republican delegate from California at the 1876 GOP convention. I ain't going no where. Tenacity and persistencr beats passion every time (although it may take a while).
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I don't think that is a viable plan of action.
You don't understand the 2nd Amendment.
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