Happy Birthday, Preston Michael Spears Federline and other Certain Special Someones! - Page 172

Hank Chinaski · 10-01-2005, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
I guess I don't pay attention enough to these things, but the FBA is the "actual" FBA, is it not?

ETA: Let me make it clear that I am aware that "Anonymous Fashionista" is a Penske (or Hank) sock. I'm not a complete idiot.

I don't sock. Or at least not sos you don't all know about 5 posts in who it is.

Penske_Account · 10-01-2005, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I don't sock. Or at least not sos you don't all know about 5 posts in who it is.

That is in part a lie. Also, I am not anon and don't sock anymore.

Hank Chinaski · 10-01-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
That is in part a lie. Also, I am not anon and don't sock anymore.

Thanks for getting my back.

The shit Penske and I admit to in the open, why would we go anon?

Maybe he means the birthday wish guy? that's nfh, ss one of that ilk.

Penske_Account · 10-01-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Thanks for getting my back.

The shit Penske and I admit to in the open, why what would it take to go anon? Maybe he means the birthday wish guy? nfh, ss one of that ilk.

de nada y dos.

spookyfish · 10-01-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Hmm, I am still not with you. . Going into today, they had the same record. Now the Yanks are one up wth one to go, so the Yanks would need two to clinch Bc if they lost, they are back to being tied, no? The Red Sox needed three wins to clinch and the Yanks need two. If the Yanks lose tomorrow, Its Red Sox-Yanks on Monday, right? What am I missing? How can the Yanks and the Red Sox not have had the same record going into today?

I'll type more slowly.

If the Red Sox win tomorrow, they will have an identical record to the Yankees, which would mean there was a tie.

Major League Baseball has these things called tie-breakers, in case of just such an eventuality between teams in the same division.

The first tie breaker is the "head-to-head" record.

After looking it up, counting tomorrow's game, the Yankees and Red Sox will have played each other 19 times.

With New York's win today, they have won 10 games against the Red Sox this season.

Even if the Red Sox win tomorrow, they will have no more than 9 wins against the Yankees this year.

So, even if we were to assume the Sox win tomorrow, the Yankees win the tie breaker with a record of 10-9 in head-to-head meetings, so they clinched the division today.

Got it now?

spookyfish · 10-01-2005, 10:16 PM

Since I double-posted, I'll answer your additional question here.

ETA: What Cleveland does only makes a difference in who wins the Wild Card berth.

Besides the division winners, Baseball allows one other team (the remaining team with the best record, regardless of division) a playoff berth.

The Sox are playing now for the wild card.

Right now, the Sox' record is one game better than Cleveland's. If the Sox win tomorrow, they're in no matter what Cleveland does.

If they lose, and Cleveland wins, Boston and Cleveland have the same record, and will play a one game playoff (technically the first post-season game, I guess) to see who gets the right to go on as the fourth team in the playoffs.

Hank Chinaski · 10-01-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
I'll type more slowly.

If the Red Sox win tomorrow, they will have an identical record to the Yankees, which would mean there was a tie.

Major League Baseball has these things called tie-breakers, in case of just such an eventuality between teams in the same division.

The first tie breaker is the "head-to-head" record.

After looking it up, counting tomorrow's game, the Yankees and Red Sox will have played each other 19 times.

With New York's win today, they have won 10 games against the Red Sox this season.

Even if the Red Sox win tomorrow, they will have no more than 9 wins against the Yankees this year.

So, even if we were to assume the Sox win tomorrow, the Yankees win the tie breaker with a record of 10-9 in head-to-head meetings, so they clinched the division today.

Got it now?

but that is a meaningless win, right? There will be a playoff, and even though it would be in NY, I think that was decided yesteray and from a coin flip. The "clinching "is meaningless- that was what confused good ole Paigow.

Penske_Account · 10-01-2005, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
I'll type more slowly.

If the Red Sox win tomorrow, they will have an identical record to the Yankees, which would mean there was a tie.

Major League Baseball has these things called tie-breakers, in case of just such an eventuality between teams in the same division.

The first tie breaker is the "head-to-head" record.

After looking it up, counting tomorrow's game, the Yankees and Red Sox will have played each other 19 times.

With New York's win today, they have won 10 games against the Red Sox this season.

Even if the Red Sox win tomorrow, they will have no more than 9 wins against the Yankees this year.

So, even if we were to assume the Sox win tomorrow, the Yankees win the tie breaker with a record of 10-9 in head-to-head meetings, so they clinched the division today.

Got it now?

Is there any provision for a win to count double? A super-duper win, sts. Then it could be 10-10, no?

eta:

[true story] When I was child, in my youth, my hood played a regular summer season of whiffle ball, in addition to all of the kids playing little league ball. At my whiffle ball field, ie my parent's backyard, in the middle of what would have been centerfield there was a faux-decorative well house (it covered the artesian well cover-this was the country). If you hit the whiffle ball and it landed in the well house on the fly (which was tough as the opening was about 2' x 2' and there was a roof over it) it was an automatic grandslam (regardless of runners on base). IN 5 or 6 seasons there were only 3 of these ever. We made a plaque. It was big tyme shite in our hood. [/true story]

Does MLB have anything like that going on?

Hank Chinaski · 10-01-2005, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
Since I double-posted, I'll answer your additional question here.

ETA: What Cleveland does only makes a difference in who wins the Wild Card berth.

Besides the division winners, Baseball allows one other team (the remaining team with the best record, regardless of division) a playoff berth.

The Sox are playing now for the wild card.

If they win tomorrow, they're in no matter what Cleveland does.

If they lose, and Cleveland wins, Boston and Cleveland have the same record, and will play a one game playoff (technically the first post-season game, I guess) to see who gets the right to go on as the fourth team in the playoffs.

Coltrane is out on Rush Street, so I'll take his proxy. He would appreciate if you were specific when you say "sox." at least for the next week until the White Sox get knocked out.

spookyfish · 10-01-2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
but that is a meaningless win, right? There will be a playoff, and even though it would be in NY, I think that was decided yesteray and from a coin flip. The "clinching "is meaningless- that was what confused good ole Paigow.

I know you're a Tigers fan, but please tell me you're joking.

Hank Chinaski · 10-01-2005, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
I know you're a Tigers fan, but please tell me you're joking.

thelast time I folowed baseball there was no wild card. But there will be a playoff, won't there is the Sox win tomorrow?

spookyfish · 10-01-2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Is there any provision for a win to count double? A super-duper win, sts. Then it could be 10-10, no?

Only in Florida.

spookyfish · 10-01-2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
thelast time I folowed baseball there was no wild card. But there will be a playoff, won't there is the Sox win tomorrow?

Only if Cleveland wins too (for the wild card), otherwise no.

ETA: I assume, for Coltrane's benefit, that you mean the Red Sox.

Hank Chinaski · 10-01-2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
Only if Cleveland wins too (for the wild card), otherwise no.

They used to not settle a season on a tiebreaker. I'm shocked. They play 162 games, why not play 1 more?

spookyfish · 10-01-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
They used to not settle a season on a tiebreaker. I'm shocked. They play 162 games, why not play 1 more?

I know, but it may have something to do with the fact that they played fewer games in a season and/or had fewer divisions. While I am certain MLB would looooove to have the additional revenue which comes with playing tie-breakers, I don't think anyone wants to be playing baseball into November.