Waiting for Fitzgerald - Page 149

Tyrone Slothrop · 10-07-2005, 04:14 PM

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I think short of credible allegations of child molestation, SO beating or putting pubical hairs on co-workers coke cans, Luttig, McConnell, Jones, Clement (sorry Ty), and Alito are all confirmable.

I agree.

eta: I think McConnell would be a powerhouse on the court, though I tend to disagree with some of what he thinks.

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JRB would be a fight, but a damn interesting one. Owens would get dinged in all likelihood.

Have heard that some Republicans oppose them behind the scenes, and so I suspect they would not be nominated for fear of losing the vote. The White House should be able to count votes as well as you and me, if they bother to do so.

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Generally I think you are right, but Gonzalez is more qualified for a seat than this lady and he is Bush's people. Or how about Ashcroft?

Maybe Gonzalez didn't want the job. Attorney General is not a bad gig, and he just got there. Ashcroft is not one of Bush's people.

Secret_Agent_Man · 10-07-2005, 04:21 PM

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Ashcroft is not one of Bush's people.

Plus -- The base would like it, but talk about a nuclear war over a nominee!

S_A_M

Penske_Account · 10-07-2005, 04:23 PM

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Plus -- The base would like it, but talk about a nuclear war over a nominee!

S_A_M

I knew he wasn't exactly a Bushie but the fight would be worth the price of admission.

Penske_Account · 10-07-2005, 04:39 PM

Will Miers be confirmed, yes or no?

andViolins · 10-07-2005, 04:40 PM

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Will Miers be confirmed, yes or no?

No. She will withdraw her name from consideration.

aV

taxwonk · 10-07-2005, 04:42 PM

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Lying under oath is absolutely wrong. When you will admit that? Putting aside God's law, as an atty, don't you believe in the rule of law?

I didn't say perjury wasn't wrong. As for whether or not it is an absolute wrong, I believe in very few absolutes. But that wasn't the point of my question. I had asked you if lying is an absolute wrong. You said that lying under oath was. All I'm trying to do now is clarify whether or not you believe lying when not under oath is an absolute wrong or not. What is your answer?

taxwonk · 10-07-2005, 04:44 PM

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Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"

Am I to take it from this post that you believe God spoke to Bush?

Penske_Account · 10-07-2005, 04:46 PM

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I didn't say perjury wasn't wrong. As for whether or not it is an absolute wrong, I believe in very few absolutes. But that wasn't the point of my question. I had asked you if lying is an absolute wrong. You said that lying under oath was. All I'm trying to do now is clarify whether or not you believe lying when not under oath is an absolute wrong or not. What is your answer?

Why would you not think perjury is wrong? Why can't the left admit its wrong? Is perjury legal in IL?

Penske_Account · 10-07-2005, 04:47 PM

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Am I to take it from this post that you believe God spoke to Bush?

I believe intelligent design is a powerful force.

taxwonk · 10-07-2005, 04:47 PM

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Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"

This must be a terrible blow to you. First, we agreed that God decreed killing to be an absolute Wrong. Now, presumably, for I see no other reason for you posting this, you believe God has told Bush that it's alright to kill.

Apparently, God is a moral relativist. Does this mean that you are now going to abandon absolutism?

Penske_Account · 10-07-2005, 04:48 PM

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No. She will withdraw her name from consideration.

aV

Thanks.

The current tally is:

Yes: 0

No (or effectively no): 1

SlaveNoMore · 10-07-2005, 04:50 PM

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Penske_Account
Will Miers be confirmed, yes or no?

(c) she won't be put up for a vote

Penske_Account · 10-07-2005, 04:51 PM

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This must be a terrible blow to you. First, we agreed that God decreed killing to be an absolute Wrong. Now, presumably, for I see no other reason for you posting this, you believe God has told Bush that it's alright to kill.

Apparently, God is a moral relativist. Does this mean that you are now going to abandon absolutism?

God is not a moral relativist. He has absolute power. He makes the rules. It's sad that you would denigrate his authority with such mockery.

Penske_Account · 10-07-2005, 04:53 PM

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(c) she won't be put up for a vote

OKay, I am counting that as no.

If she doesn't get to a vote then she won't be confirmed.

Yes: 0

No: 2

Hank Chinaski · 10-07-2005, 05:06 PM

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OKay, I am counting that as no.

If she doesn't get to a vote then she won't be confirmed.

can't he just make a recess appointment?