Waiting for Fitzgerald

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
You are not explaining or justifying because in a world where Ginsgurg can get 90 plus votes there is no reasonable explaination or justification for shooting JRB down, other than racist sexism by the demo plantation overlourds.

The political world has changed since the early 1990s Penske.

Nowadays it is respectable and expected to oppose nominees on ideological grounds rather than simply bow to the will of the President. This is particularly true of those whose views are truly well outside the legal and popular mainstream.

Ginsberg was and is quite "liberal" in her views, but she is and was nowhere near as far off-center as Judge Brown. (Remember too, that we're talking of the politics of 12 years ago in the case of Ginsburg.) For you to accused JRBs detractors of racism is the purest nonsense.

S_A_M

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Ps: So I took my lover's kid out to the track for another workout last nite. Did the spot the half, mile race thing again. The kid is getting faster. My achilles was a little tight so I started slow, didn't nip the kid until the last 100. 6:02 to the kid's 6:11. It may be time for me to start putting the real smack down on this brat.

Better start stretching before the kid has to carry you to the hospital.

S_A_M

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
again you experience your ignorance of running and the difference between sprint and distance times. I doubt you are even a jogger (although I could see you as one of those hacks who does a race like the Accenture Triathlon and rides beater bike with an inflatable naked doll attached-I may have lapped you if so), but remind me what year(s) you went to USTAF championships or the Worlds?

I thought you were in special olympics, no? I've convinced my kids to donate in your name in lieu of Xmas gifts. Let me know if this whole act has been a lie, would you?

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Congrats you and cooter can keep yourselves company in loserland. Say hi to Chuckie Schumer.

The babyjesi have shown their power. Bush gives us a conservative anti-Roe proponent or he gets cockblocked again@@!

You, sir, are full of shit. It is not in the political interest of the Republican party to have Roe overturned. As long as they can jerk-off the babyjesi on the abortion issue and not really give them anything they won't. You think for a minute they are going to want to yank that plank out of their platform with the electorate so closely divided? You're nuts.* Bottom line is that both parties will keep any issue in play that will allow them to stay in power, and if you don't believe that, you have your head in the fucking sand.

* I don't think even fiscal conservatives necessarily like what the Republican party has been selling (on the spending side of the equation, at least) since Reagan's second term. If you can't even sell them, then you need the babyjesi -- or certainly their cash.

[mmm3587]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
again you experience your ignorance of running and the difference between sprint and distance times. I doubt you are even a jogger (although I could see you as one of those hacks who does a race like the Accenture Triathlon and rides beater bike with an inflatable naked doll attached-I may have lapped you if so), but remind me what year(s) you went to USTAF championships or the Worlds?

You are pretty fake-impressive on the internet. When do you train if you are so busy posting crazy stuff here? Even fake-internet training takes a little time - do you keep a fake chart of your distances and pretend that you are posting on the board with a wireless laptop while you're "running"?

Look, clearly, logic is not your thing - everyone who communicates with you comes away feeling like they've wasted their time, I'm sure. That's obviously the case here - I've wasted my time trying to convince you of something obvious and clear.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Perjury is a crime. A serious crime. And Karl Rove should be punished for it to the fullest extent allowed by law.

And rape is wrong. I know. Condoleeza Rice raped me.

Heh.

I never did trust her -- something about her eyes. . .

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Your mockery of rape and violence against woman is sad. I thought you were better than this. We may need to re-think your reinstatement into the insurgency.

You need to much more careful who you enlist. Remember the Real Jesus got taken down by a diciple. And who got you kicked off here last time?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I hate to interrupt the Board Historian's stirring defense of McCarthyism -- remarkable as it is both for its limited and Hollywood-centric understanding of what actually occurred in America during that time and for its apparent disregard for (among other things) the fact that the Honorable Senator repeatedly flat-out fucking lied on the floor of the Senate for his own political gain.

But . . . here is more from Spanky's friends at the DLC (through my doppelganger Mr. Broder) on how Dems have to stop bitching and actually start to pony up to clean up the fiscal wreckage of the Bush years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...11.html?sub=AR

S_A_M

What the fuck do the Dems have to do with the Federal budget?

2 things they can do besides bitching-

Get second jobs and donate the earnings to Treasury.

or

Stop spending money on elections that can't win (any presidential/ Southern Senate, etc.) and donate the money to the treasury.

They do understand that Genna Davis or Jimmy Smits winning the White House doesn't really give them power, don't they?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
The political world has changed since the early 1990s Penske.

Nowadays it is respectable and expected to oppose nominees on ideological grounds rather than simply bow to the will of the President. This is particularly true of those whose views are truly well outside the legal and popular mainstream.

Ginsberg was and is quite "liberal" in her views, but she is and was nowhere near as far off-center as Judge Brown. (Remember too, that we're talking of the politics of 12 years ago in the case of Ginsburg.) For you to accused JRBs detractors of racism is the purest nonsense.

S_A_M

I disagree. Ginsburg was as far left as you can get in mainstream American politics. JRB is no more right than at least 22% of the current Court and possibly 33% incl. Roberts. Her educational experience and professional background as a jurist are impeccable. There is no reason she should not be approved, other than blatant partisan politics. Fortunately I don't think the dimwits have the votes. The wrath of the babyjesi is mighty.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Spanky
What was done to the Japanese sucked and was wrong. No question. But that is a side issue.

The point is that during WWII, any German that might have Nazi sympathies was thrown into a concentration camp by the US government. In addition, Nazi sympathisers were interviewed and asked their political views during the 1930s when we were not at war. Not a complaint from the liberals.

As you may not have noted from the wikpedia article:

• The House Committee on Un-American Activities grew from a special investigating committee established in May 1938, chaired by Martin Dies and co-chaired by Samuel Dickstein, himself named in the Venona project as a Soviet agent. In pre-war years and during World War II it was known as the Dies Committee. Its work was supposed to be aimed mostly at German-American involvement in Nazi and KKK activity. As to investigations into the activities of the "Klan," the Committee actually did little. When HUAC's chief counsel Ernest Adamson announced that: "The committee has decided that it lacks sufficient data on which to base a probe," committee member John E. Rankin added: "After all, the KKK is an old American institution." Instead of the Klan, HUAC concentrated on investigating the possibility that the American Communist Party had infiltrated the Works Progress Administration, including the Federal Theatre Project.
  
  In 1938 Hallie Flanagan, the head of the Federal Theatre Project, was subpoenaed to appear before the committee to answer the charge that the project was overrun with communists. Flanagan was called to testify for only a part of one day, while a clerk from the project was called in for two entire days. It was during this investigation that one of the committee members famously asked Flanagan whether the Elizabethan playwright Christopher Marlowe was a member of the Communist Party.
  
  In 1939 the committee investigated leaders of the American Youth Congress, a Comintern affiliate organization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_U...ties_Committee (emphasis supplied)

All while we weren't at war with any communist state. Not a complaint from the conservatives.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Better start stretching before the kid has to carry you to the hospital.

S_A_M

R u kidding? 6:02 is 3rd gear. But in deference to the educational experience I am supposed to be conferring on the kid we do stretch, although personally I have never been that into it.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I thought you were in special olympics, no? I've convinced my kids to donate in your name in lieu of Xmas gifts. Let me know if this whole act has been a lie, would you?

Have them send me the cash and I will apply it appropriately. Also, remind your wife she owes me reimbursement for my plane fare to Detroit for the last go-round.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Captain
When was the last time a President couldn't get a Senate controlled by his own party to confirm a S.Ct. appointment? Roosevelt?

LBJ's nomination of Justice Abe Fortas for Chief -- filibustered by Republicans until after the election. Then Abe resigned and Nixon appointed Warren Burger as Chief and (I think) Blackmun to Abe's AJ slot.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by spookyfish
You, sir, are full of shit. It is not in the political interest of the Republican party to have Roe overturned. As long as they can jerk-off the babyjesi on the abortion issue and not really give them anything they won't. You think for a minute they are going to want to yank that plank out of their platform with the electorate so closely divided? You're nuts.* Bottom line is that both parties will keep any issue in play that will allow them to stay in power, and if you don't believe that, you have your head in the fucking sand.

* I don't think even fiscal conservatives necessarily like what the Republican party has been selling (on the spending side of the equation, at least) since Reagan's second term. If you can't even sell them, then you need the babyjesi -- or certainly their cash.

I think different factions of the REpublican party have different views of the issue. I am not disputing that you capture one faction's position above., however, the babyjesi of the party have more principle and moral clarity than that and they are running the show at this point. Plus it is an awful decision and should be turned over on the basis of its incoherency and lack of grounding in the constitution. The Fed Soc wing of the party believes that.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
the babyjesi of the party have more principle and moral clarity than that and they are running the show at this point. .

Except that everyone else is beginning to realize the emporer has no clothes.