A disgusting vat of filth that no self-respecting intelligent person would wade into.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I'm sorry, but I really don't see where Christianity is treated with utter contempt in a country where the members of Congress, the President, military personnel, witnesses, jurors, etc. are sworn in with an oath to God to uphold their duty.

I'm also fairly certain that many college teams still engage in a shortt team prayer before each game.

So drop the bullshit about any threat to Christianity and admit your problem is just blind unthinking hate.

Is it a threat to christianity that he is worried about or more a fifth columnistesqueish threat to the American way of life, democracy and Freedom?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Does the Pope ban Muslims outright from an entire city?

Is it illegal to pray to Allah -not just in the cathedral - but EVERYWHERE in the Vatican?

Not even ballpark. Try again.



I believe they stone rape victims and circumcize young females in Mecca. Does that count?

I believe Mecca is in Saudi Arabia, not the United States. So what's your point?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Its all morally relative to these godless libs. they have no universal moral code that they live by. The irony is, they will be the first to go under the Islamic Republic of North America.

Same question as I asked Slave. Saudi Arabia isn't the United States. What's your point?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I believe Mecca is in Saudi Arabia, not the United States. So what's your point?

Dissent. You are ASSuming again. As Spanky could surely confirm, Mecca is here too.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
My network won't allow me to access that site.....is it traitourous?

Did you read Gatti's list of the 50 most annoying people of 2006 on the FB?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Same question as I asked Slave. Saudi Arabia isn't the United States. What's your point?

Where did I mention SA? Regardless of Slave's point, I am pointing our that the G-dless immorality of the liberals will be the downfall of our nation, democracy and freedom. It won't be the Saudi's that defeat, it will be the liberals, as agents of the fifth column of al qaeda and RedChina.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Did you read Gatti's list of the 50 most annoying people of 2006 on the FB?

Cite please?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Cite please?

Here.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Slave's "clash of cultures" argument is old, old news. People in this country said that about Jews, Catholics, southern Europeans, eastern Europeans, Chinese, etc etc etc. I guess muslims are just the newest nigger -- no individual is bad, they just all are.

I was thinking the same thing last night, but refrained from using a Bull Connor reference because I thought it would be distracting.

S_A_M

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
When you are doing legal research and you find a case that is 80% the same facts as your case, you dismiss it because it isn't 100% the same?

That Mormon guy; he didn't ask that the Sunday games be rescheduled? he felt that if he were true to his religion he just wouldn't be able to show for them? Interesting.

Your points are all addressed to the question of whether or not Northwestern should accede to the student's request. I note first that most people are not suggesting that the school should. Some of the posters were concerned about a slipperey slope argument, and didn't think the request should be granted. Other posters were pretty much indifferent and didn't really seem to care one way or the other. A third group noted that there were many sports traditions that stemmed from deference to Chirstianity. I don't really recall anyone saying specifically that Northwestern should provide a prayer room.

But all of that is completely beside the point. The real issue is whether it was hateful and wrong for Slave to make a big deal out of it. What people are really divided on is whether or not we are infavor of Slave to be using this forum to spread religious or cultural intolerance. ON that issue, there seem to be two schools of thought. There are those who disapprove and are calling Slave on it and those who are beniding over backward to defend his bigotry.

With that in mind, let me offer a more apropos hypo.

Say you go to MSU games. You have a need to say "fuck all ragheads and camel jockeys" five or six times a night. Suppose other people are offended by that. Should the entire stadium be forced to listen and accept it while you are escorted to the annnouncers' booth to use the public address system to share your message or should you ne encouraged to stick your head up your ass and whisper it?

Note that, as on the PB, it has not been suggested that you be prevented from saying it or thrown out of the stadium for doing so.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
And I am against it in all cases. As for the last congress, irrelevant, in the same way Bush, president for 8 months following 8 years of Clinton's crimes, neglect, treason, destruction of the military/intelligence agencies and appeasement of terrorists, was responsible for 911, I hold Pelosi responsible for the wasteful spending appropriations of Congress. It's time for her to put up or go home.

Aside from your sheer idiocy with respect to all the crap about everything being either Bill Clinton or Nancy Pelosi's fault, I was going to agree with you about federal grant money not going to a private institution.

But then, I stopped to consider all the advances in science, mathematics, etc., that have come from federal research grants. I ultimately concluded that I had much less of a gripe about research grants than I do about farm subsidies, tobacco subsidies, cost-plus federal military expeditures contracts, etc. So, on balance, while I see your point about federal money going to private universities, I have to say that I think they produce far more good than harm.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Is it a threat to christianity that he is worried about or more a fifth columnistesqueish threat to the American way of life, democracy and Freedom?

I'm fairly certain that Slave doesn't even realize how big a threat to the American way of life, democracy, and freedom, any more than you realize it.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
And I am against it in all cases. As for the last congress, irrelevant, in the same way Bush, president for 8 months following 8 years of Clinton's crimes, neglect, treason, destruction of the military/intelligence agencies and appeasement of terrorists, was responsible for 911, I hold Pelosi responsible for the wasteful spending appropriations of Congress. It's time for her to put up or go home.

Smashing, the new spirit of bi-partisanship is really taking hold........

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Your points are all addressed to the question of whether or not Northwestern should accede to the student's request. I note first that most people are not suggesting that the school should. Some of the posters were concerned about a slipperey slope argument, and didn't think the request should be granted. Other posters were pretty much indifferent and didn't really seem to care one way or the other. A third group noted that there were many sports traditions that stemmed from deference to Chirstianity. I don't really recall anyone saying specifically that Northwestern should provide a prayer room.

But all of that is completely beside the point. The real issue is whether it was hateful and wrong for Slave to make a big deal out of it. What people are really divided on is whether or not we are infavor of Slave to be using this forum to spread religious or cultural intolerance. ON that issue, there seem to be two schools of thought. There are those who disapprove and are calling Slave on it and those who are beniding over backward to defend his bigotry.

With that in mind, let me offer a more apropos hypo.

Say you go to MSU games. You have a need to say "fuck all ragheads and camel jockeys" five or six times a night. Suppose other people are offended by that. Should the entire stadium be forced to listen and accept it while you are escorted to the annnouncers' booth to use the public address system to share your message or should you ne encouraged to stick your head up your ass and whisper it?

Note that, as on the PB, it has not been suggested that you be prevented from saying it or thrown out of the stadium for doing so.

first of all, i did make a quite good point- maybe I'll start annotating my posts- my point was that no other religion would ask for the change. The country is being asked to allow driver's license photos of veiled women, etc for Muslims.

I illustrated that, in at least one instance, a group of Jewish people choose not to ask for things to be changed to suit them. Adder, that nitwit, mentions his teammate the Mormon. Without intending to, he supports my point also.

of course, the fact is that my point was BS since I'm fairly sure Macabee coaches have asked for a no-Saturday schedule. To be honest, I even offered to call and ask for the special schedule.

given that reality, what is odd isn't that some kid asked- assuming he was refused- what is odd is that it is treated as a story.

And I would say that Slave was probably just a little geeked up by the way the story was spun on the webpage where he probably found it.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I'm pretty sure that the tradition of playing HS football on Friday nights came about because there wasn't room in the schedule to play all games on Saturday and there wasn't any way in Hell they were going to allow play on Sunday.

Yeah, but was that because of Church or the NFL schedule?