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01-30-2007, 05:38 PM
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#4561
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For what it's worth
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2008 GOP candidates
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Why do you think this? Beyond other items like her charisma deficit, I can't get past the thought that there are untold legions of voters out there waiting to be reminded of how much Hillary annoyed them a decade or so ago.
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I've seen focus groups on her. She appeals to indepdendents and Republican women and to the liberal base of the party. For some reason she has been able to move to the center without ticking off the liberal base. Yes - Cindy Sheehan doesn't like her but that is about it.
I think the liberals like her because the conservatives hate her so much. But in any case, she seems to be the only Democrat able to stradle the liberals, the independents and Republican women.
Only Giuilian and McCain will be able to pull back the independents and the moderate Republican women.
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01-30-2007, 05:42 PM
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#4562
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Social California Conservatives and Giuliani
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You'd think social conservatives would have a hard time with the multiple divorces, or the living-with-gay-men thing. Huh.
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Exactly. That is what I thought. But this guy (Frank) is a leader for the Social Conservatives in California. He has fought against Arnold every step of the way. In a primary in California I don't think Stephen Frank and I have ever agreed on the same candidate.
There is clearlly something going on behind the scenes we are not privy to.
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01-30-2007, 05:43 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Speaking of Shills
Do you think Katie Couric secretly longs to wear a hijab?
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01-30-2007, 05:45 PM
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#4564
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
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2008 GOP candidates
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Originally posted by Spanky
I've seen focus groups on her. She appeals to indepdendents and Republican women and to the liberal base of the party. For some reason she has been able to move to the center without ticking off the liberal base. Yes - Cindy Sheehan doesn't like her but that is about it.
I think the liberals like her because the conservatives hate her so much. But in any case, she seems to be the only Democrat able to stradle the liberals, the independents and Republican women.
Only Giuilian and McCain will be able to pull back the independents and the moderate Republican women.
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How can she appeal to Republican women? What about her/her positions would appeal to them? Are these RiNos?
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01-30-2007, 05:45 PM
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#4565
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Social California Conservatives and Giuliani
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Originally posted by Cletus Miller
I realize this usage was in a blog, and therefor likely an excusable typo, but why the proliferation of "no-nothing"? Does it have some subtextual meaning for evangelicals or some other group? Or are people who write about politics just that dumb?
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It may have not been a typo. I don't know. This was the first time I have heard someone refer to Gore that way. Basically, I have no clue to what that is about.
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01-30-2007, 05:46 PM
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Southern charmer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: At the Great Altar of Passive Entertainment
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Speaking of Shills
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Do you think Katie Couric secretly longs to wear a hijab?
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To the same extent I think SAM is a shill for the Democratic party, then yes. Yes, I do.
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01-30-2007, 05:47 PM
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#4567
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2008 GOP candidates
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
This absolves my vote for Perot. Both times.
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That is a scar that will stick to you for your whole life, and always make us a littlle suspicioius of you.
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01-30-2007, 05:49 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Libby trial
So now conservative team players Ari Fleischer and Judith Miller both say Libby told them about Valerie Plame before he says he learned about her from Tim Russert. Is Libby going to testify?
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01-30-2007, 05:49 PM
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#4569
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Speaking of Shills
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Do you think Katie Couric secretly longs to wear a hijab?
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01-30-2007, 05:50 PM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Social California Conservatives and Giuliani
What the hell does that mean?
eta: nevermind
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01-30-2007, 05:53 PM
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#4571
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WacKtose Intolerant
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2008 GOP candidates
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Originally posted by Spanky
That is a scar that will stick to you for your whole life, and always make us a littlle suspicioius of you.
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I was a Reagan revolutionary!
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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01-30-2007, 05:54 PM
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#4572
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For what it's worth
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2008 GOP candidates
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
How can she appeal to Republican women? What about her/her positions would appeal to them? Are these RiNos?
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I don't really remember their reasons. I would guess some of it would have to do with the fact that she carries herself like a country club Republican woman (no emotion) but I don't really know. However, I have been privy to many Republican polls and focus groups that have all shown she has the potential to peel of a lot of Republican women.
There is a very good chance she will be our next President.
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01-30-2007, 05:55 PM
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#4573
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For what it's worth
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Social California Conservatives and Giuliani
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
What the hell does that mean?
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If you find out please let me know. I am actually very curious.
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01-30-2007, 05:57 PM
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#4574
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Libby trial
Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
So now conservative team players Ari Fleischer and Judith Miller both say Libby told them about Valerie Plame before he says he learned about her from Tim Russert. Is Libby going to testify?
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Given that his defense seems to be that he got confused and forgot, I would think he would have to, wouldn't he? How else does she show that he really didn't mean to mislead prosecutors?
Btw, the reports from this trial are fascinating in revealing how hard these guys were trying to discredit Wilson. Of course, there is something ironic about the fact that they only way they could do it is to accuse him of "lying" about the fact that he wasn't allowed to reveal (and yes, I realized he could have awarding the outing in more truthful ways than saying the Cheney sent him).
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01-30-2007, 05:58 PM
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#4575
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WacKtose Intolerant
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2008 GOP candidates
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
I don't really remember their reasons. I would guess some of it would have to do with the fact that she carries herself like a country club Republican woman (no emotion) but I don't really know. However, I have been privy to many Republican polls and focus groups that have all shown she has the potential to peel of a lot of Republican women.
There is a very good chance she will be our next President.
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I have been warning this board of that danger since 2000. If that happens, the person I blame is Guiliani. Without his pussy act in the 2000 Senate race, she would be off the radar now.
Fuck!
eta: I don't care....it will be y'all's problem. I will be in Sicily.
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