Still Hating America.

[SlaveNoMore]

Adder
You guys see this? If true, this is rather disturbing:



Fox News says the Feds can eavesdrop on your using your cell phone

"Are you calling me on a cellular phone? I don't know you. I'm hanging up the phone. Prank caller, prank caller!"

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Pithy quote of the day:



some dude

There you go, citing to blogs again.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
the unmitigated gaul

I'm not usually one to pick out typos and such. But, given the source, this one cracks me up.



Nothing of substance to see here. Please move on.



eta: Sacre bleu!!! Scroll, then post.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Dude. I am Harvard educated. Why not just trust me?

Hank Chinaski
'88 Law '91

I thought you were in the conversation to slag* Al.

* Hi Spanky!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore, quoting some dude
"I don't have my kilowatt totals handy, but I can see in Quicken what I paid in January. Our electric and water bill was $79.68 and our natural gas bill was $75.72. Gore is using roughly 2000% of the energy of our family of four in a house that's roughly 600% bigger, so basically three times as much energy even after adjusting for square footage.

Does he have a 24 hour disco or something?"

If Gore is paying more to buy his electricity from a green source, then it doesn't matter how much he's using, because he's not making global warming worse, right? Actually, it seems like his allegedly profligate energy use is stimulating the development of green sources.

[SlaveNoMore]

Sidd Finch
I'm not usually one to pick out typos and such. But, given the source, this one cracks me up.



Nothing of substance to see here. Please move on.



eta: Sacre bleu!!! Scroll, then post.

I find it more amusing that not one, not 2, but 3 of you felt the need to jump on my typo.

Although maybe the implication in this is that you all agree with me that Al Gore is pompous, hypocritical blowhard.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If Gore is paying more to buy his electricity from a green source, then it doesn't matter how much he's using, because he's not making global warming worse, right? Actually, it seems like his allegedly profligate energy use is stimulating the development of green sources.

whoa. slow down there tiger. his electricity is from a GREEN source, or a GREENER source?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
whoa. slow down there tiger. his electricity is from a GREEN source, or a GREENER source?

Reading is hard!

"Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch . . . ."

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

You have this game of taking conversations about policy and other shit in the real world and diverting them into arguments about who said what to whom on the board when. I'm bored with these, because you relentlessly misrecall and misquote and misstate things, and you get so into the spirit of the thing that you do things like calling me dishonest for quoting you at length. (Which was sort of poetic, actually.)

Actually. You are accusing me of doing exactly what you do. I rarely get into these type of exchanges with other posters, I mainly get involved in them with you. You however get into these types of exchanges with multiple posters. I have many interesting exchanges with people on this board about education reform. Never with you. You are to busy trying to score political points.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop I am interested in the question of how barriers to firing teachers and teachers unions might affect the quality of education. Apparently you're not. Too bad.

Actually you are not interested in the "questions". You are just intent on posting "gotcha" posts. The true sign of a "gotcha post" is its length and its lack of content. The post where you referenced that blog (that started this exchange) had just one sentence - no content, no analysis, no explanation, nothing. And that blog you referenced added nothing to the discussion as the quotes below demonstrate:

“the superintendent and school board threaten any teacher that tries to move out of her obedient servile position under their feet.”

“I don't have any problem saying that I would prefer a solution that wouldn't terminally piss off the teachers' unions, because the unions help Democrats win elections and I like it when Democrats win elections. That doesn't mean I'm not willing to support programs the unions dislike if they're necessary to the program of improving public education; only that, other things equal, I'd rather find a modus vivendi than start a civil war."

"How about Mickey? Will he 'fess up to the fact that, like Bill Bennett, he'd much rather smash the unions than improve the schools? And that he demands that Democratic candidates diss the unions for the same reason I demand that Republican candidates diss the TV preachers: because it's a good way to break up what could otherwise be a winning electoral coalition?"


Do you think referencing these sentences support’s your assertion that ” I am interested in the question of how barriers to firing teachers and teachers unions might affect the quality of education” What you call snark, is just rambling histrionics not backed by any evidence. If you were interested in the subject you wouldn’t be referencing crap like this. Please. Don't start a food fight and then claim you didn't want anyone to get dirty.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
If Gore is paying more to buy his electricity from a green source, then it doesn't matter how much he's using, because he's not making global warming worse, right? Actually, it seems like his allegedly profligate energy use is stimulating the development of green sources.

From the Economist

...Some of [Gore's handlers'] response seems flatly silly. The electricity usage is what Mr Gore consumes after things like solar panels and CFLs are taken into account; it's hardly comforting that he could be emitting even more carbon, since that is true of almost all of us, yet has not stopped Mr Gore from hectoring us to reduce our carbon output still further. Similarly, I find it hard to believe that Mr Gore has actually reduced his carbon output "as much as possible"—and if Mr Gore so believes, I invite him to take a train up to New York, where I will show him what a more carbon efficient lifestyle looks like...

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I find it more amusing that not one, not 2, but 3 of you felt the need to jump on my typo.

Although maybe the implication in this is that you all agree with me that Al Gore is pompous, hypocritical blowhard.

When did you last have the opportunity to vote for a national candidate who was not a pompous, hypocritical blowhard?

I actually like Gore reasonably well. But I'll concede he fits the definition. As does pretty much everyone else on the national stage.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Reading is hard!

"Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch . . . ."

Wind power kills birds. Why does Al Gore hate the eagle so?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
From the Economist

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
...Some of [Gore's handlers'] response seems flatly silly. The electricity usage is what Mr Gore consumes after things like solar panels and CFLs are taken into account; it's hardly comforting that he could be emitting even more carbon, since that is true of almost all of us, yet has not stopped Mr Gore from hectoring us to reduce our carbon output still further. Similarly, I find it hard to believe that Mr Gore has actually reduced his carbon output "as much as possible"—and if Mr Gore so believes, I invite him to take a train up to New York, where I will show him what a more carbon efficient lifestyle looks like...

99 cent slices?

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Reading is hard!

"Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch . . . ."

And despite these steps, he's still using 2000% more than Joe Sixpack in a house that GGG notably points out is not his primary residence.

Facts are a bitch.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Reading is hard!

"Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch . . . ."

member you was plaining to spanky about reading stuff and all?

• How much electricity does Green Power Switch produce?
  TVA has the capacity to provide as much as 97 million kilowatt-hours of green power annually. Physical laws determine where electricity is ultimately used, so power from these sources will go into TVA’s electric system as part of the Valley’s total power mix, rather than to individual homes or businesses. When the green power resources aren’t operating — for instance, when wind speeds are too low to generate energy — TVA’s other resources will continue to supply reliable electricity.

so what he is doing is burning electricity like a mad man, then paying money so TVA can try to start wind/solar power- BUT he is in no way "not hurting". If he closed a wing then there would be more "greener" electricity for the masses. The cite explains there are very real limits on how much energy the "green switch" program can generate. Why would Al use so much more than necessary?

http://www.tva.com/greenpowerswitch/green_mainfaq.htm