Still Hating America.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by taxwonk
My issue with Maher is that he doess things like make the Cheney comment not in spite of the fact that it will offend, but because of it.

He doesn't court controversy to spark debate, but to drive ratings. The big difference between him and Jon Stewart is that while stewart can get sanctimonious at times, he doesn't go out of his way to hurt people.

That's what I meant when I called Maher amoral.

And in this way, he and Coulter are the same. I think Coulter is pretty much a joke hack and everything she says is calculated to drive attention in order to keep her relevant to sell her product. She's actually very good at it and has big balls to say the things she does without apology, but there is very little substance coming from her these days.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
And in this way, he and Coulter are the same. I think Coulter is pretty much a joke hack and everything she says is calculated to drive attention in order to keep her relevant to sell her product. She's actually very good at it and has big balls to say the things she does without apology, but there is very little substance coming from her these days.

C'mon, club. That's hardly a nice thing to say about your girl.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Adder
I didn't get this when you said it before, and I don't understand it now. Miller as the right? I haven't seen his recent work, but I didn't think he was too right wing.

And Maher on the left? Dude is basically a Sebby style liberatarian, except for animal rights.

Not to say that they wouldnt' be interesting together; I just don't see the left/right divide here.

He is very pro-Bush and pro-Republican. He thoroughly supports the war and questions global warming. Ever since 9-11 he has been a staunch administration supporter. He is often a guest on Bill O'Reillys show (Miller time) to mock liberals.

He used to be more liberal than me but now he is more conservative.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Adder
And Maher on the left? Dude is basically a Sebby style liberatarian, except for animal rights.

He hates Bush, hates the war, and he is an environementalist. Of course the two of them are not steorotypical, and it is hard to classify them, but I see Maher as a pretty conservative Democrat and Dennis Miller as a liberal Republican.

I just think they could ridicule well anyone that came on. To compare them to Jon Stewart ( or Colbert) it not a good comparison because Stewart and Colbert are going directly for laughts. MIller and Maher go for laughs but they are always trying to make a political point.

So I think there should would be funny, but a lot more serious than the Daily show.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Gattigap
C'mon, club. That's hardly a nice thing to say about your girl.

I think he's very, very upset that some guy blogged about fucking her in the ass. He thought he would be special when he achieved her ass.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If he flees as a fugitive to Switzerland, and his wife gives a lot of dough to the National Party, do you think he'll get pardoned?

I hear there is some precedent for this.

Indeed:



Robert Fink, left, I. Lewis Libby Jr. and Peter Kadzik, lawyers for Marc Rich, at a 2001 Congressional hearing on Mr. Rich’s pardon.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You're right. maher does overstep and whore it up. BUT, what I think really bugs people is that he subtly pushes nihilism as the only rational response to political "morality." Laughing at all "beliefs" they way he likes to challenges the soul of a lot of people in this country who are damned certain about Right and Wrong.

He's an ugly little Camus for pop television.

Camus? More like Less with a bigger ego and a bigger audience.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by sgtclub
And in this way, he and Coulter are the same. I think Coulter is pretty much a joke hack and everything she says is calculated to drive attention in order to keep her relevant to sell her product. She's actually very good at it and has big balls to say the things she does without apology, but there is very little substance coming from her these days.

Spewing insults and outrageous attacks (i.e., calling everyone you don't like a "front for terrorists") isn't really very hard. Doing that without apology doesn't take "big balls."

It takes being an asshole. And maybe having a sense that being an asshole (especially one with tits) drives your ratings up and ensures that your base supporters will all buy your next book.

Admiring Coulter for the "balls" it takes for her to call Edwards a "faggot" and his campaign a terrorist front, and then to say that she's laughing about it later, is sort of like admiring Jenna Jameson for the incredible courage it takes to get naked and gang-fucked on screen.

Though I'd watch Jenna over Ann any day, and twice on Sundays.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
He hates Bush, hates the war, and he is an environementalist. Of course the two of them are not steorotypical, and it is hard to classify them, but I see Maher as a pretty conservative Democrat and Dennis Miller as a liberal Republican.

I just think they could ridicule well anyone that came on. To compare them to Jon Stewart ( or Colbert) it not a good comparison because Stewart and Colbert are going directly for laughts. MIller and Maher go for laughs but they are always trying to make a political point.

So I think there should would be funny, but a lot more serious than the Daily show.

Stewart goes for laughs too. The difference is that he's funny. And smart.

Maher and Miller cannot be serious and interesting. And they can't be particularly funny, either. Both of them inevitably end up having to chuckle at their own jokes during the course of a show, because no one else is laughing.

I can say this with confidence having seen each of them maybe twice (more for Miller if you count SNL).

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Indeed:



Robert Fink, left, I. Lewis Libby Jr. and Peter Kadzik, lawyers for Marc Rich, at a 2001 Congressional hearing on Mr. Rich’s pardon.

Why is he smirking?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Gattigap
C'mon, club. That's hardly a nice thing to say about your girl.

Don't get me wrong, I still think she is hilarious and entertaining.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Don't get me wrong, I still think she is hilarious and entertaining.

did you ever date NotMe?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Spewing insults and outrageous attacks (i.e., calling everyone you don't like a "front for terrorists") isn't really very hard. Doing that without apology doesn't take "big balls."

It takes being an asshole. And maybe having a sense that being an asshole (especially one with tits) drives your ratings up and ensures that your base supporters will all buy your next book.

Admiring Coulter for the "balls" it takes for her to call Edwards a "faggot" and his campaign a terrorist front, and then to say that she's laughing about it later, is sort of like admiring Jenna Jameson for the incredible courage it takes to get naked and gang-fucked on screen.

Though I'd watch Jenna over Ann any day, and twice on Sundays.

Sidd, you really need to switch to decaf.

And I think Jenna is very brave.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
did you ever date NotMe?

"Date"? No never did.