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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
How many can explain how an internal combustion engine works?

can they take us out to their driveway and use visual exhibits?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
How many can explain how an internal combustion engine works?

Because God wants it to work. How difficult is that?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
so the governemnt is holding these people without any cogent reason? despicable?

people have been prosecuted under the statute, ask yourself why some others haven't been. maybe it's becasue they are close to my hypo, or the evidence could compromise other intelligence gathering. the downside of being wrong on these issues is huge.

Or maybe it is because the government is completely out of control and just grabbing people out of pure paranoia.

I think the difference in how Ty and I look at my last question frames why we feel differently about the decision.

• Colin Powell's former Chief of Staff Lawrence Wilkerson estimates that the US administration has arrested between 30,000 and 50,000 suspects during the past year. Eighty-five percent of them were innocent, according to Wilkerson. "We really have created a mess here. A terrible mess," Wilkerson says. "This has been incredibly damaging."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...488149,00.html

[Tyrone Slothrop]

• The Connecticut for Lieberman Party is calling on Senator Joseph Lieberman to resign from the U.S. Senate following his remarks made Sunday on CBS' Face the Nation regarding military action against Iran.
  
  Lieberman said on the national television program that, "we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians."
  
  The Connecticut for Lieberman Chair, Dr. John Orman, called for Lieberman's resignation saying that he "crossed the line" and "no longer represents the views of the citizens of Connecticut."
  
  Orman, a longtime critic of Lieberman, took control of the minority party back in January.

link

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

• The Connecticut for Lieberman Party is calling on Senator Joseph Lieberman to resign from the U.S. Senate following his remarks made Sunday on CBS' Face the Nation regarding military action against Iran.
  
  Lieberman said on the national television program that, "we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians."
  
  The Connecticut for Lieberman Chair, Dr. John Orman, called for Lieberman's resignation saying that he "crossed the line" and "no longer represents the views of the citizens of Connecticut."
  
  Orman, a longtime critic of Lieberman, took control of the minority party back in January.

link

so is there talk that Joe won't get the party's nomination in 2012?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
so is there talk that Joe won't get the party's nomination in 2012?

IIRC, that guy seized control of the party by being the only person to register to vote with it. If Joe can persuade a couple of his Republican lobbyist pals to re-register, he should be OK.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Hank's post, or the working of an internal combustion engine?

Yes.

[Shape Shifter]

It all comes down to grammar.

• When In Trouble, Blame The Hortatory Subjunctive
  By Laura McGann - June 13, 2007, 4:35 PM
  
  In Lurita Doan’s defense, she has trouble with tense sometimes. That’s why members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform think she planned to punish her employees at the General Services Administration for cooperating with investigators, not because she actually planned to sanction anyone.
  
  Lurita Doan explained her grammatical shortfalls in her testimony today. But Democrats on the committee had a hard time buying it. Rep. John Yamuth (D-KY) took her to task on her tense mincing over a statement Doan made about GSA employees that had cooperated with the Office of Special Council in its investigation into her conduct. When pushed, Doan claimed she meant to invoke the "hortatory subjuctive" when she said:
  
  Until extensive rehabilitation of their performance occurs, they will not be getting promoted and will not be getting bonuses or special awards or anything of that nature.
  Son of a Latin teacher, Rep. John Sarbanes (D-MD) disagreed. He called her statement the common "future" tense. He also spotted a connection between her grammatical defense and an accusation that she encouraged her employees to help out Republican Congressional races. At a presentation given by Karl Roves' deputy she asked her GSA employess: “How can we help our candidates?”

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003427.php

The video is worth watching just to catch the smirk on the face of the audience member when the Hortatory Subjunctive Defense is invoked.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
It all comes down to grammar.

• When In Trouble, Blame The Hortatory Subjunctive
  By Laura McGann - June 13, 2007, 4:35 PM
  
  In Lurita Doan’s defense, she has trouble with tense sometimes. That’s why members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform think she planned to punish her employees at the General Services Administration for cooperating with investigators, not because she actually planned to sanction anyone.
  
  Lurita Doan explained her grammatical shortfalls in her testimony today. But Democrats on the committee had a hard time buying it. Rep. John Yamuth (D-KY) took her to task on her tense mincing over a statement Doan made about GSA employees that had cooperated with the Office of Special Council in its investigation into her conduct. When pushed, Doan claimed she meant to invoke the "hortatory subjuctive" when she said:
  
  Until extensive rehabilitation of their performance occurs, they will not be getting promoted and will not be getting bonuses or special awards or anything of that nature.
  Son of a Latin teacher, Rep. John Sarbanes (D-MD) disagreed. He called her statement the common "future" tense. He also spotted a connection between her grammatical defense and an accusation that she encouraged her employees to help out Republican Congressional races. At a presentation given by Karl Roves' deputy she asked her GSA employess: “How can we help our candidates?”

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003427.php

The video is worth watching just to catch the smirk on the face of the audience member when the Hortatory Subjunctive Defense is invoked.

Much like I can't tell if rp and Burger are smacking or patting, I can't figure out what this hortatototototory thing is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hortatory_subjunctive didn't really help.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
It all comes down to grammar.

• When In Trouble, Blame The Hortatory Subjunctive
  By Laura McGann - June 13, 2007, 4:35 PM
  
  In Lurita Doan’s defense, she has trouble with tense sometimes. That’s why members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform think she planned to punish her employees at the General Services Administration for cooperating with investigators, not because she actually planned to sanction anyone.
  
  Lurita Doan explained her grammatical shortfalls in her testimony today. But Democrats on the committee had a hard time buying it. Rep. John Yamuth (D-KY) took her to task on her tense mincing over a statement Doan made about GSA employees that had cooperated with the Office of Special Council in its investigation into her conduct. When pushed, Doan claimed she meant to invoke the "hortatory subjuctive" when she said:
  
  Until extensive rehabilitation of their performance occurs, they will not be getting promoted and will not be getting bonuses or special awards or anything of that nature.
  Son of a Latin teacher, Rep. John Sarbanes (D-MD) disagreed. He called her statement the common "future" tense. He also spotted a connection between her grammatical defense and an accusation that she encouraged her employees to help out Republican Congressional races. At a presentation given by Karl Roves' deputy she asked her GSA employess: “How can we help our candidates?”

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003427.php

The video is worth watching just to catch the smirk on the face of the audience member when the Hortatory Subjunctive Defense is invoked.

when do the Hatch act hearings start?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Why did the Soviet Union collapse? Falling oil prices.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Why did the Soviet Union collapse? Falling oil prices.

pathetic.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
pathetic.

Well, the leaders of the USSR were doing the best they good.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
eta: The link, she no work.

Belief in Evolution by Party Affiliation

Republicans
30% believe in evolution
68% do not believe in evolution

Independents
61% believe in evolution
37% do not believe in evolution

57% believe in evolution
40% do not believe in evolution

link

It's funny that the fear and idiocy at the base of the thing Darwin proved an intellectually infantile method of understanding our origins turns out to be the mechanism that enforces the law of natural selection most effectively. If it wasn't for the religious, how would we ever come to be ignorant and senseless enough to kill one another at the rate we do? It isn't much of a stretch to suggest that if Religion were made irrelevant, Darwin might also lose some relevance.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
It's funny that the fear and idiocy at the base of the thing Darwin proved an intellectually infantile method of understanding our origins turns out to be the mechanism that enforces the law of natural selection most effectively. If it wasn't for the religious, how would we ever come to be ignorant and senseless enough to kill one another at the rate we do? It isn't much of a stretch to suggest that if Religion were made irrelevant, Darwin might also lose some relevance.

Is this fueled solely by alcohol, or are other drugs and/or sleep deprivation contributing?