Meet your new thread, same as the old thread.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Now do you get it?

Does it really need explanation? There's fighting in the middle east - it has to be Israel's fault.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Does it really need explanation? There's fighting in the middle east - it has to be Israel's fault.

I don't understand why you have this need to bash Israel. What's going on in Gaza and the West Bank probably isn't even good for Israel in the long run.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't understand why you have this need to bash Israel. What's going on in Gaza and the West Bank probably isn't even good for Israel in the long run.

Sarcasm

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Sarcasm

Let me know if I'm whiffing, but being sarcastic about your own position is kind of odd. Are you sure you're not a Sebby sock?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Let me know if I'm whiffing, but being sarcastic about your own position is kind of odd. Are you sure you're not a Sebby sock?

It's called subtle commentary. It may be over your head. Hank, I didn't believe it before, but you may be right.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
It's called subtle commentary. It may be over your head. Hank, I didn't believe it before, but you may be right.

I would have thought that dishing that sort of thing would help you recognize it, but apparently not.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Let me know if I'm whiffing, but being sarcastic about your own position is kind of odd.

Why? Unless you're certain you're right, which people are actually maybe 20% of the time, why would you be so earnest all the time?

People look at politics past and say "this happened because" and politics upcoming and say "this will happen because," but most of them are wrong, or right about result and wrong on cause. Otherwise, we'd have a few ringers who could basically put anyone who hired them in office or get any legislation he wanted to implement enacted.

You are offering your best conjecture, and the real aim in most political debate is to try to show how informed or smart you are, rather than to actually come to a valid prognosis (which usually involves compromise and cobbling together of the best points of each side).

Not being sarcastic in your political views seems kind of delusional. I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell Hillary cn get elected. I could be wrong, so I might as well recognize that fact by making my bombastic pronouncement in a funny or sarcastic manner.

Besides, the ever-earnest aren't much fun.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sgtclub
It's called subtle commentary. It may be over your head. Hank, I didn't believe it before, but you may be right.

Well, someone does seem slow today. So I shouldn't be surprised that you're your own straw man.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Why? Unless you're certain you're right, which people are actually maybe 20% of the time, why would you be so earnest all the time?

People look at politics past and say "this happened because" and politics upcoming and say "this will happen because," but most of them are wrong, or right about result and wrong on cause. Otherwise, we'd have a few ringers who could basically put anyone who hired them in office or get any legislation he wanted to implement enacted.

You are offering your best conjecture, and the real aim in most political debate is to try to show how informed or smart you are, rather than to actually come to a valid prognosis (which usually involves compromise and cobbling together of the best points of each side).

Not being sarcastic in your political views seems kind of delusional. I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell Hillary cn get elected. I could be wrong, so I might as well recognize that fact by making my bombastic pronouncement in a funny or sarcastic manner.

Besides, the ever-earnest aren't much fun.

When you get this earnest about sarcasm, my brain starts to hurt.

But, yeah, kindah, some of the time.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Well, someone does seem slow today. So I shouldn't be surprised that you're your own straw man.

I must have been away too long, but I'm not getting anything anyone's posted today. Do retards know they're retarded?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I must have been away too long, but I'm not getting anything anyone's posted today. Do retards know they're retarded?

Mercury is retrograde.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I must have been away too long, but I'm not getting anything anyone's posted today. Do retards know they're retarded?

ironically, it seems those that are most retarded are the ones who tend to know, even though they are supposedly dumber that their more borderline compatriots. I know several "dull normals" that speak right up, like they should have a forum.

Of course, the above does not explain the curious confidence of several of the liberals that post here.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
ironically, it seems those that are most retarded are the ones who tend to know, even though they are supposedly dumber that their more borderline compatriots. I know several "dull normals" that speak right up, like they should have a forum.

This goes especially well with your Hank Newman avatar today. Kudos.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
When you get this earnest about sarcasm, my brain starts to hurt.

But, yeah, kindah, some of the time.

This is part of my new "Blob Theory" approach.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Spanky
These guys just can't wait to lose. It’s like they are just chomping at the bit for us to screw up and then gloat about it. Patreus asked till September to see if he can make this work and then make an assessment. We just get out of the gate and these guys are already calling it a failure. Are we even close to September? By calling it a failure now they are just making it that much harder for Patreus to succeed. Can't they for once put the interest of the country above their own petty political objectives and keep their damn pie hole's shut until September?

At Kasserine pass we suffered terrible losses. A good thing these guys didn't control congress then.


Iraq surge a failure, top Democrats tell Bush

Jun 13 04:38 PM US/Eastern

Top US congressional Democrats bluntly told President George W. Bush Wednesday that his Iraq troop "surge" policy was a failure.
Senate Majority leader Harry Reid and House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi challenged the president over Iraq by sending him a letter, ahead of a White House meeting later on Wednesday.

"As many had foreseen, the escalation has failed to produce the intended results," the two leaders wrote.

"The increase in US forces has had little impact in curbing the violence or fostering political reconciliation.

"It has not enhanced Americas national security. The unsettling reality is that instances of violence against Iraqis remain high and attacks on US forces have increased.

"In fact, the last two months of the war were the deadliest to date for US troops.

The letter appeared to preview a fresh showdown over Iraq between anti-war Democrats and the president, just a few weeks after Bush forced his foes to strip troop withdrawal timelines from a 100 billion dollar emergency war budget.

It also came a few days after the US military mourned its 3,500th soldier killed in action in Iraq.

Pelosi and Reid told Bush in the letter that they planned to send him new legislation to "limit the US mission in Iraq, begin the phased redeployment of US forces, and bring the war to a responsible end."

On Tuesday, Reid said that Senate Democrats would attach troop withdrawal deadlines to a Defense Department Authorization bill, due to be debated within weeks.

The next critical point in the showdown between Bush and Congress over Iraq is expected in September, when US commander in Iraq David Petraeus is due to report on progress in the strategy to "surge" up to 30,000 more US troops into the war-ravaged nation.

Even senior Republicans have said they expected the president will have little choice but to make adjustments in the Iraq strategy, once the report is made public.

When you think of your divorce from reality, do you think of it as a failed relationship?