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Old 06-28-2007, 03:05 PM   #1396
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In other words, you'll be buying your own lunch and I won't be eating my hat.
Since I already told you that I wasn't planning to look through Brit Hume's ouevre, that's a pretty safe bet.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:18 PM   #1397
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What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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TARNISHMENT ISN'T A WORD!
so. the word is fake, but accurate.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:35 PM   #1398
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What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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so. the word is fake, but accurate.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:39 PM   #1399
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So Bush's immigration bill failed, and he couldn't even get 1/3 of the Rs to support it.

Does he have any political capital left?
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:47 PM   #1400
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So Bush's immigration bill failed, and he couldn't even get 1/3 of the Rs to support it.

Does he have any political capital left?
Not much to speak of. Their game now continues to be trying to further erode the Dems political capital before the election.

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Old 06-28-2007, 05:15 PM   #1401
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So Bush's immigration bill failed, and he couldn't even get 1/3 of the Rs to support it.

Does he have any political capital left?
I cannot name a single "Republican voter" that I know that was behind that Bill.

In my opinion its not a question of political capital - it's a question of why he felt compelled to abandon his own party.
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Old 06-28-2007, 05:18 PM   #1402
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I cannot name a single "Republican voter" that I know that was behind that Bill.

In my opinion its not a question of political capital - it's a question of why he felt compelled to abandon his own party.
I'm pretty sure Bob Perry supported that bill, as well as other Republican voters in the construction, agriculture and restaurant industries.
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Old 06-28-2007, 05:41 PM   #1403
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FOX News viewers say: Turn the war over to Democrats.

  • If there is an all-out war between the United States and various radical Muslim groups worldwide, who would you rather have in charge — Democrats or Republicans?

    Democrats 41%

    Republicans 38%

    Both the same
    (not listed) 9%

    Don't know
    (not listed) 12%

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Old 06-28-2007, 07:43 PM   #1405
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:15 PM   #1406
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Chaaaaaaarge!

Apropos of little, some conservatives are going just a teensy bit overboard with this result.
  • Today's defeat of the Senate amnesty bill was more than a run-of-the-mill legislative victory, representing as it did a self-organizing public's defeat of combined force of Big Business, (some of) Big Labor, Big Media, Big Religion, Big Philanthropy, Big Academia, and Big Government. So I looked at what else has happened on June 28 -- the closest parallel would appear to be the Battle of Monmouth in 1778, of the only two times when Gen. Washington managed to fight British regulars to a draw in a conventional battle. Because that's all this is -- a draw, because the open-borders folks aren't going to give up. It's just that they went from their usual tactics of piecemeal, behind-the-scenes victories, buried in appropriations bills and little-known courtrooms and bureaucratic offices, and tried to get the whole enchilada — trying to emulate something else that happened on June 28, the Turks' defeat of the Serbs at the Battle of Kosovo in 1389, leading to Ottoman conquest of all southeastern Europe.
No, that's not an Onion link. The NRO actually compared the defeat of the senate bill to the Battle of Monmouth.
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Shocking and Unexpected Development: Fox Champions Free Speech! News at 10.

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While I have some doubts about the Fairness Doctrine from a free speech perspective, as well as some doubts about its effectiveness in even achieving its stated goal, I am willing to overcome those doubts sufficiently to have a protracted debate in which Rupert Murdoch spends million of dollars attempting to buy every available member of Congress on either side of the aisle.

In other words, I'm willing to set aside my prinicples to order a hit on Fox, for the sheer entertainment value of it. Watching the hypocrites dance sounds like a good time.
Remember, Fox is the Right's lone voice on television. If the Left pushes the Fairness Doctrine debate, the result may be the very last thing it wants. If I were the Left, I'd try to copy Fox's business model.

The Left is so fucking stupid and sure of itself that it thinks Fox is succeeding because of the shrillness of its Right Wing rhetoric. Watch Fox a little more closely. It is succeeding because it is serving up tabloid news as salaciously as possible. The Left assumes the ideology drives the ratings. That's a small piece of it. Of all the things Fox is guilty of, slanting news is the least. It's real crime is how its dumbed down the news so quickly.

Like you, I'd abandon my principles for a Fairness Doctrine that forced smarter programming onto the networks to counter the idiot pap served to us now.

The Left would no doubt agree and suggest its views are somehow the more enlightened in an attempt to co-opt my position. Since it knows everything.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:39 PM   #1408
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Apropos of little, some conservatives are going just a teensy bit overboard with this result.
  • Today's defeat of the Senate amnesty bill was more than a run-of-the-mill legislative victory, representing as it did a self-organizing public's defeat of combined force of Big Business, (some of) Big Labor, Big Media, Big Religion, Big Philanthropy, Big Academia, and Big Government. So I looked at what else has happened on June 28 -- the closest parallel would appear to be the Battle of Monmouth in 1778, of the only two times when Gen. Washington managed to fight British regulars to a draw in a conventional battle. Because that's all this is -- a draw, because the open-borders folks aren't going to give up. It's just that they went from their usual tactics of piecemeal, behind-the-scenes victories, buried in appropriations bills and little-known courtrooms and bureaucratic offices, and tried to get the whole enchilada — trying to emulate something else that happened on June 28, the Turks' defeat of the Serbs at the Battle of Kosovo in 1389, leading to Ottoman conquest of all southeastern Europe.
No, that's not an Onion link. The NRO actually compared the defeat of the senate bill to the Battle of Monmouth.
One could argue this today's was the more important win.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:41 PM   #1409
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Shocking and Unexpected Development: Fox Champions Free Speech! News at 10.

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The tiny blonde chick with the tremendous cans on "Age of Love" is hot.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:45 PM   #1410
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The tiny blonde chick with the tremendous cans on "Age of Love" is hot.
I think the nudity to non-nudity ratio on our broadcast networks is the real crime. Where's the fairness there?
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