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07-27-2007, 01:24 PM
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Jesus.
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Originally posted by Gattigap
It's an AP story quoting Army documents.
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no. it's blog, linked to another blog, that quotes an article. an the article says that "it appears" the bullets were fired close based upon how close they were. it also explains an investigation happened.
but if you goal is objectivity, why not link to the article in the first place?
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Huh? Neither the blog Ty linked nor the AP story says these things, far as I can tell. You been trolling on Kos again?
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huh? the blog Ty cites is Kos/DU. go back and read it.
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07-27-2007, 01:32 PM
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Southern charmer
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Jesus.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
huh? the blog Ty cites is Kos/DU. go back and read it.
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No, Alberto, it's not.
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07-27-2007, 01:48 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Jesus.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
even Ty's blog doesn't claim that as a fact.
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Nor did I. The question mark indicated that I was raising the possibility. If he was murdered, which I tend to doubt, we'll probably never know.
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07-27-2007, 01:50 PM
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#2329
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Jesus.
Quote:
Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
why not link to the article in the first place?
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Because I trust you and others on this board to make sense of sources which quote and link to other sources.
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07-27-2007, 01:53 PM
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Jesus.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Nor did I. The question mark indicated that I was raising the possibility. If he was murdered, which I tend to doubt, we'll probably never know.
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yeah, but like, how is your post different than say a Penske-style "clinton killed 26 people" post?
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07-27-2007, 01:54 PM
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Jesus.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Because I trust you and others on this board to make sense of sources which quote and link to other sources.
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that's weird. whenever I find a story on lgf, I always link the story to cut away from the commentary. maybe that's why I'm generally seen as pretty credible here?
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07-27-2007, 01:57 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Jesus.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
yeah, but like, how is your post different than say a Penske-style "clinton killed 26 people" post?
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I don't have his Photoshop skills.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
that's weird. whenever I find a story on lgf, I always link the story to cut away from the commentary. maybe that's why I'm generally seen as pretty credible here?
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"When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche.
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07-27-2007, 02:17 PM
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#2333
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Bush Lied!
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Originally posted by Gattigap
No, Alberto, it's not.
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My take-away from the conversation here is that Hank doesn't want to talk about it. I assume Spanky has sent him the talking points from Rove.
Now the question is, do they not want to talk about because the Tilman case is all about Bush administration members lying right and left, and the "Bush lies" theme hits home, or is it because something bad happened over there, where an enemy attack caused grown men to cower in fear but left no visible sign, no spent shells, no dings in the equipment, no indication that any attack had occurred other than three holes in the head of one person that turned out to have been put there by U.S. ranger fire?
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07-27-2007, 02:20 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Bush Lied!
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
My take-away from the conversation here is that Hank doesn't want to talk about it. I assume Spanky has sent him the talking points from Rove.
Now the question is, do they not want to talk about because the Tilman case is all about Bush administration members lying right and left, and the "Bush lies" theme hits home, or is it because something bad happened over there, where an enemy attack caused grown men to cower in fear but left no visible sign, no spent shells, no dings in the equipment, no indication that any attack had occurred other than three holes in the head of one person that turned out to have been put there by U.S. ranger fire?
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It's not clear to me that there's much of a political angle to the Tillman thing. To my mind, it's more about the mililtary's propensity for PR, and preference for myth-making over giving civilians good information.
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的t was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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07-27-2007, 02:32 PM
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Bush Lied!
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It's not clear to me that there's much of a political angle to the Tillman thing. To my mind, it's more about the mililtary's propensity for PR, and preference for myth-making over giving civilians good information.
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But is there an angle to Hank's posts? They look suspect to me. More of the same.
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07-27-2007, 02:46 PM
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Jesus.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
"When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche.
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"A man looks in the abyss, there is nothing staring back at him. At that moment he discovers his character. That keeps the man out of the abyss."
-- Lou Mannheim, Wall Street
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07-27-2007, 03:19 PM
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You know, you're semi good-looking.
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
"A man looks in the abyss, there is nothing staring back at him. At that moment he discovers his character. That keeps the man out of the abyss."
-- Lou Mannheim, Wall Street
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"I've been to the edge. And there I stood and looked down. You know, I lost a lot of friends there, baby. I got no time to mess around."
-- David Lee Roth, Ain't Talkin' Bout Love
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07-27-2007, 03:43 PM
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Bush Lied!
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
My take-away from the conversation here is that Hank doesn't want to talk about it. I assume Spanky has sent him the talking points from Rove.
Now the question is, do they not want to talk about because the Tilman case is all about Bush administration members lying right and left, and the "Bush lies" theme hits home, or is it because something bad happened over there, where an enemy attack caused grown men to cower in fear but left no visible sign, no spent shells, no dings in the equipment, no indication that any attack had occurred other than three holes in the head of one person that turned out to have been put there by U.S. ranger fire?
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you're right. To be fair to Ty, he is not the most Penske-like of you guys. thanks for bringing me back to earth G.
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07-27-2007, 03:49 PM
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You know, you're semi good-looking.
Quote:
Originally posted by Not Bob
"I've been to the edge. And there I stood and looked down. You know, I lost a lot of friends there, baby. I got no time to mess around."
-- David Lee Roth, Ain't Talkin' Bout Love
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Come go, I will fall prostrate at his feete,
And neuer rise vntill my teares and prayers
Haue won his grace to come in person hither,
And take perforce my husband from the Abbesse
--Wm. Sh.
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07-27-2007, 03:58 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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You know, you're semi good-looking.
Quote:
Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Come go, I will fall prostrate at his feete,
And neuer rise vntill my teares and prayers
Haue won his grace to come in person hither,
And take perforce my husband from the Abbesse
--Wm. Sh.
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Off my corner, ho.
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