A Black Hole of Happiness - Page 287

John Phoenix · 07-27-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by patentparanyc
The woman next to me swims 6 days a week. She then complains she is tired. I said well that is your choice to swim then, don't complain. she then launched into a litany of reasons why she has to swim. I've never understood that. If you do intensive training, then don't complain. do people not make the connection?

I'm not sure that I understand your question. Do you mean that people who make voluntary choices regarding their personal situations (amount of exercise, in your post) shouldn't complain, because they placed themselves in the situation?

patentparanyc · 07-27-2007, 01:39 PM

But I think I knew that.

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John Phoenix · 07-27-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I sort of freaked myself out a few weeks ago when it got above 200.

I'm such a bad distance runner that I constantly am in the mid-180s to low-190s range when running. If I pick it up at the end, I'm guaranteed to hit a little over 200.

robustpuppy · 07-27-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by patentparanyc
The woman next to me swims 6 days a week. She then complains she is tired. I said well that is your choice to swim then, don't complain. she then launched into a litany of reasons why she has to swim. I've never understood that. If you do intensive training, then don't complain. do people not make the connection?

So you're saying it's very frustrating to deal with people who complain about the consequences of their own choices, and then defend those choices as necessary when someone points out that the consequences should have been expected. I just want to make sure I follow.

Ty@50 · 07-27-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Yes, I know. BTW, I qualified for Boston. It was in 1994, but still, I qualified for Boston. Now I am probably so old that I am in an age range where my slower time will still qualify me!!!! Yay!

I could qualify for Boston, if i could use 2007 Ty's time AND convince the entry people I'm female and handicapable.

patentparanyc · 07-27-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by John Phoenix
I'm not sure that I understand your question. Do you mean that people who make voluntary choices regarding their personal situations (amount of exercise, in your post) shouldn't complain, because they placed themselves in the situation?

Two clarifications. My friend says her husband does the same thing. To train for climbing Mt. Ranier he climbs an immense indoor stair case for hours. Then whines that he is tired/exhausted.

Second, this woman stated that she is 20 years older me [can't change that] her commute wears on her [her commute is shorter than mine] in addition to the swimming 6 days a week "like a maniac" some things you cannot change, some things you can. I'm not hating on her swimming, good for her. But I also don't want to her her whine endlessly about it when she could cut a day or two out and feel better. I don't whine to her that I have kids or I work a lot. it's a seinfeldian thing. she loves to kvetch, whine, moan, complain. I finally told her that is the last thing I want to hear in the morning first thing. so negative.

p.s. re abba's knob comment. lol. totally. I don't think she should feel "drained" from that she isn't training right. just a hunch.

ABBAKiss · 07-27-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
I find swimming to be far, far suckier. Not "goofing in the water on a hot day" swimming, but real fitness-style swimming. Suck. Eee. Ist.

2. I do not get a good workout from swimming at all. I must not be doing it right, but fuck, I do not want to learn because it sucks so hard.

ABBAKiss · 07-27-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by patentparanyc
The woman next to me swims 6 days a week. She then complains she is tired. I said well that is your choice to swim then, don't complain. she then launched into a litany of reasons why she has to swim. I've never understood that. If you do intensive training, then don't complain. do people not make the connection?

Most people that I know who train seriously are energized by the training and not complaining of tiredness. Sure, I feel "tired" after a long run in the sense that I don't want to immediately do it again, but I feel energized. What is her intensive training? She must be doing it wrong, or else she is a knob.

ThurgreedMarshall · 07-27-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by John Phoenix
I'm not sure that I understand your question. Do you mean that people who make voluntary choices regarding their personal situations (amount of exercise, in your post) shouldn't complain, because they placed themselves in the situation?

You're completely misunderstanding her question. Her question is, "Will you guys continue to pay attention to me if I can think of stuff to say that sounds like it might have something to do with what you're talking about?"

Your post translates into "Yes."

TM

Tyrone Slothrop · 07-27-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by patentparanyc
The woman next to me swims 6 days a week. She then complains she is tired. I said well that is your choice to swim then, don't complain. she then launched into a litany of reasons why she has to swim. I've never understood that. If you do intensive training, then don't complain. do people not make the connection?

Have you found that explaining her illogic to her is an effective way to help her see the error of her ways?

ltl/fb · 07-27-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by ABBAKiss
If your goal is weightloss, and your time is limited, you need to focus on cardio and not mini-toning exercises. Why not buy a good elliptical machine and do an hour everyday at home? I'm not saying Curves is bad (I know virtually nothing about it aside from that it is circuit weights and not really cardio) but it is not a huge calorie burner, and my understanding is that you want to lose weight which means you need to burn calories.

The weights are so light, and are not adjustable, that you can do really fast reps and then it's more cardio. Most importantly, it's mindless, there are random groups of people to watch and chat with, and she can certainly lose some weight. And a year of it is probably cheaper, and the cost spread out more, than buying a "good" elliptical. And the kids can't be there, so once she gets out of the house, no interruptions/distractions.

patentparanyc · 07-27-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Have you found that explaining her illogic to her is an effective way to help her see the error of her ways?

No, she becomes irate with me.

Any time I stop being a doormat and confront anyone [in my mind I always think "gee if I stopped being a doormat and spoke up the person would change bad behavior or not do something that irritates me; i.e she does heavy perfume, takes long lunches, leaves early--the other woman did 10 personal calls a day had to leave because her kid was in a fight"] the person gets belligerant and defiant and refuses to listen. it's pure comedy since i've built it up in my mind that I'm a wimp and won't confront and that is why they continue their odious behavior.

I've come to the conclusion that people will do what they want and what they are allowed to get away with. and unless you are willing to go to management about it is even dubious that that would work. I'm not a narc so I don't do that.

Funny thing is she used to send me emails all caps "I AM GOING TO BRUSH AND FLOSS" that grossed me out SO MUCH that I told her to stop and she did. Even she was embarassed.

Hank Chinaski · 07-27-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You're completely misunderstanding her question. Her question is, "Will you guys continue to pay attention to me if I can think of stuff to say that sounds like it might have something to do with what you're talking about?"

Your post translates into "Yes."

TM

I'm not sure you can go down this road for a week or two.

Replaced_Texan · 07-27-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by ABBAKiss
2. I do not get a good workout from swimming at all. I must not be doing it right, but fuck, I do not want to learn because it sucks so hard.

When I did the triathlon, it seemed like most people hated the swim the most. There were people in my wave that were absolutely dreading it, and some people took over an hour to swim 750 yards. One of the best athletes I know consistently comes in last in the swim when he does triathlons.

I love it. I spent most of my childhood in the pool, and I'm really glad that I'm back in the water again with the master's program. It's probably been 20 years since I've had real swim workouts and interval training and drills and all of that fun stuff. I'm in one of the slower lanes, but it's been great.

Hank Chinaski · 07-27-2007, 02:01 PM

for years I've had this dream image where I'm looking at contacts and they are huge, like saucers, and I'm looking at them thinking how the fuck can i get them in my eyes. today I finally looked up a dream analysis site- any dreams about contacts mean you need to focus your attention AND dreams with problems putting them in mean you're having trouble focusing. Does looking at the lenses and knowing they can't possibly go in mean there is really no point for me to try to focus?