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[LessinSF]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I honestly think we should simplify foreign policy, like say a Russian politician says "The United States acts like the world's babysitter meddling in other countries' affairs when it has no rights under international law." Or, "the united States claims the moral high ground, but then supports murderous dictators!"

I think our response should be, "So?" I think we need to move away from nuance. I don't think we live in a nuanced world so much anymore.

Exactly. Like when this Serb general was sentenced to 33 years yesterday for "murder, inhumane treatment and overseeing a campaign of terror that indiscriminately lobbed shells and bombs into the city, killing thousands of civilians." http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=3987187 . My first thought was Dresden and Hiroshima and its too fucking bad we can't exhume Ike to try him for war crimes.

The problem with saying "so?" comes when we want help and have no goodwill or credibility. But I don't mind that we lack in both because I don't want to be the THE country in the world. I welcome our dimishing stature, our devalued currency, our illeteracy, our ignorance masquerading as freedom of religion, our lack of a moral high ground on so many issues, our decreasing life expectancy rank, etc. Let the other 7 of the G-8 try for awhile. Let them be the targets. Let them try to make sense of 6+ billion people caring about nothing but propagating, air conditioning, Wiis, and going to heaven.

The United States has run its course. Sell high and enjoy the proceeds.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
me personally? doesn't matter. i trust my governement. the executive branch proposed using it, and my elected congress had no objection, so I'm okay with it.

You're too smart to think this way, but it helps you here, right?

S_A_M

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Exactly. Like when this Serb general was sentenced to 33 years yesterday for "murder, inhumane treatment and overseeing a campaign of terror that indiscriminately lobbed shells and bombs into the city, killing thousands of civilians." http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=3987187 . My first thought was Dresden and Hiroshima and its too fucking bad we can't exhume Ike to try him for war crimes.

The problem with saying "so?" comes when we want help and have no goodwill or credibility. But I don't mind that we lack in both because I don't want to be the THE country in the world. I welcome our dimishing stature, our devalued currency, our illeteracy, our ignorance masquerading as freedom of religion, our lack of a moral high ground on so many issues, our decreasing life expectancy rank, etc. Let the other 7 of the G-8 try for awhile. Let them be the targets. Let them try to make sense of 6+ billion people caring about nothing but propagating, air conditioning, Wiis, and going to heaven.

The United States has run its course. Sell high and enjoy the proceeds.

How many japanese citizens died in hiroshima?

How many Japanese citizens died during the invasion of Okinawa?

How many purple hearts had the US ordered to be used during the invasion of the main islands?

When was the last time the US purchased purple hearts?

but like i dig man, it was bogue to do it!

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
How many japanese citizens died in hiroshima?

How many Japanese citizens died during the invasion of Okinawa?

How many purple hearts had the US ordered to be used during the invasion of the main islands?

When was the last time the US purchased purple hearts?

but like i dig man, it was bogue to do it!

2. That Serbian general probably saved a lot of his troops by doing that.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
I will admit that I have a pretty good sense of Giuliani, not least because of the lunatics he has surrounded himself with as advisors

Ted Olsen is a lunatic. Uh, ok.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ironweed
2. That Serbian general probably saved a lot of his troops by doing that.

go back and read the first two lines of my post. we saved Japanes civilians by dropping the bomb. dolt.

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
go back and read the first two lines of my post. we saved Japanes civilians by dropping the bomb. dolt.

Except for the ones we actually killed. But I bet they never even thanked us for that, did they? Idiots.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Ted Olsen is a lunatic. Uh, ok.

Sorry -- insert "foreign policy" before advisors. Ted Olson is not a lunatic, though he does seem to hang out with a lot of lunatics, for a sane fellow.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ironweed
Except for the ones we actually killed. But I bet they never even thanked us for that, did they? Idiots.

do you think the 10,000,000 civilians that were saved thank us? I think they do.

why are you so bothered by the 3000 US deaths in Iraq, but indifferent to 500,000 US soldiers being killed invading Japan?

I hear american troops shot 6 German guards when they liberated Bergan Belsen. should I feel shame over it?

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Exactly. Like when this Serb general was sentenced to 33 years yesterday for "murder, inhumane treatment and overseeing a campaign of terror that indiscriminately lobbed shells and bombs into the city, killing thousands of civilians." http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=3987187 . My first thought was Dresden and Hiroshima and its too fucking bad we can't exhume Ike to try him for war crimes.

The problem with saying "so?" comes when we want help and have no goodwill or credibility. But I don't mind that we lack in both because I don't want to be the THE country in the world. I welcome our dimishing stature, our devalued currency, our illeteracy, our ignorance masquerading as freedom of religion, our lack of a moral high ground on so many issues, our decreasing life expectancy rank, etc. Let the other 7 of the G-8 try for awhile. Let them be the targets. Let them try to make sense of 6+ billion people caring about nothing but propagating, air conditioning, Wiis, and going to heaven.

The United States has run its course. Sell high and enjoy the proceeds.

Sebby?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Sebby?

I can no longer post as Less basically just annexed my entire shtick/philosophy.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Exactly. Like when this Serb general was sentenced to 33 years yesterday for "murder, inhumane treatment and overseeing a campaign of terror that indiscriminately lobbed shells and bombs into the city, killing thousands of civilians." http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=3987187 . My first thought was Dresden and Hiroshima and its too fucking bad we can't exhume Ike to try him for war crimes.

The problem with saying "so?" comes when we want help and have no goodwill or credibility. But I don't mind that we lack in both because I don't want to be the THE country in the world. I welcome our dimishing stature, our devalued currency, our illeteracy, our ignorance masquerading as freedom of religion, our lack of a moral high ground on so many issues, our decreasing life expectancy rank, etc. Let the other 7 of the G-8 try for awhile. Let them be the targets. Let them try to make sense of 6+ billion people caring about nothing but propagating, air conditioning, Wiis, and going to heaven.

The United States has run its course. Sell high and enjoy the proceeds.

I love reading Alan Greenspan talk about how we have to avoid bubbles in the Journal.

Hey Alan, WTF else do we create any more? Welcome to the United States, where we recreate the Tulip Craze every seven years.

And WTF is Henry Paulson doing talking about the "tragedy" of the mortgage meltdown? Unless you have absolute dog shit between your ears that was the most obvious game of financial musical chairs in years.

We are in a hustlers economy for the long term foreseeable future. Which I think is good. Lets run this Capitalism thing to its crazy lunatic end.

All credit is long term credit today. Wait until the mortgage fallout slams into the credit card companies. That will be astounding. We're still about six months from the leading edge of that calamity.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

• Today the Senate voted on an amendment by Byron Dorgan and Chuck Grassley to make the appalling farm bill slightly less bad (the effort to make it significantly less bad having already failed, garnering only 37 votes). The Dorgan/Grassley amendment got 56 votes--and so, of course, it failed also, since in typical Senate fashion it needed 60 to pass. (It should be noted, by the way, that while it was a bipartisan group who voted down the amendment, only 12 Democrats voted the wrong way, while 31 Republicans voted for a bill that would make Milton Friedman vomit in terror. Draw your own conclusions about which party actually believes in free markets.)

TNR

[SlaveNoMore]

sebastian_dangerfield
I love reading Alan Greenspan talk about how we have to avoid bubbles in the Journal.

He said the same thing in speech to the CMSA back in NY in July. 3 weeks later, the credit markets crashed.

Better question to me, was, if you need cheap credit would lead to this debacle, why did the Fed on your watch keep the rate ar such record lows?

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Draw your own conclusions about which party actually believes in free markets

The answer is Neither.

To suggest otherwise - that somehow Senate Democrats believe in free markets - is to suggest the moon is made of cheese.