New Fashion Board 10-3-2003 - 11-7-2003

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/national/12OBES.html [Companies attempt to slim down the workforce by making employees walk more. Nice idea in principle, but what happens when winter hits and those employees start suing for slip-and-falls while walking from the parking lot? And what about the ADA issues, which also came to mind w/r/t the anti-elevator article (does the presence of elevators, necessary for ADA compliance, result in an unnecessary risk to life & limb, or attractive nuissance, for the rest of us?).]

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/magazine/12WWLN.html
[Evidence of the rise of alcoholism in the 1820s apparently indicates that we are fat because food is abundant and cheap so farmers turn it into food sweeteners and other additives to get people to consume the overproduction. Whatever. We should clearly allow food prices to rise so those damn poor people can't afford so much of it and get so fat. But the ariticle contains this rather shockingly offensive, and journalistically unprofessional, passage: "It doesn't hurt that those lightly populated farm states exert a disproportionate influence in Washington, since it takes far fewer votes to elect a senator in Kansas than in California. That means agribusiness can presumably ''buy'' a senator from one of these underpopulated states for a fraction of what a big-state senator costs." I think I speak for natives of thinly-populated states everywhere when I say "fuck you, you self-righteous, anti-federalist, unamerican pinko, if I were a senator from Kansas I'd sue your ass for libel." But, to the extent that this article is a lament that excess corn is being turned into additional food rather than more alcohol, I'm sympathetic.]

[sunnybunny]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by leagleaze
Try this instead [A whole lotta info about getting tickets]

Leagle, is Eagle Scout your sock, or your shorter Jewish twin brother?


~Sunny~

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/national/12OBES.html [Companies attempt to slim down the workforce by making employees walk more. Nice idea in principle, but what happens when winter hits and those employees start suing for slip-and-falls while walking from the parking lot? And what about the ADA issues, which also came to mind w/r/t the anti-elevator article (does the presence of elevators, necessary for ADA compliance, result in an unnecessary risk to life & limb, or attractive nuissance, for the rest of us?).]

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/magazine/12WWLN.html
[Evidence of the rise of alcoholism in the 1820s apparently indicates that we are fat because food is abundant and cheap so farmers turn it into food sweeteners and other additives to get people to consume the overproduction. Whatever. We should clearly allow food prices to rise so those damn poor people can't afford so much of it and get so fat. But the ariticle contains this rather shockingly offensive, and journalistically unprofessional, passage: "It doesn't hurt that those lightly populated farm states exert a disproportionate influence in Washington, since it takes far fewer votes to elect a senator in Kansas than in California. That means agribusiness can presumably ''buy'' a senator from one of these underpopulated states for a fraction of what a big-state senator costs." I think I speak for natives of thinly-populated states everywhere when I say "fuck you, you self-righteous, anti-federalist, unamerican pinko, if I were a senator from Kansas I'd sue your ass for libel." But, to the extent that this article is a lament that excess corn is being turned into additional food rather than more alcohol, I'm sympathetic.]

1. The folks building these anti-fat campuses will soon find themselves on the receiving end of lawsuits from the obesity-challenged.

2. I actually agree with the Times on this. It is unfair for the red states to have so much control over how we on the coasts live. I have less in copmmon will a guy in Missouri than I do with most Europeans. Most of the coastal people are a bit more progressive in their thinking, and its unfair that vehement minorities of traditionalists hold us back by exploiting the electoral college. I agree wholeheartedly that food production should be curtailed and alcohol production increased to lower the outrageous booze prices, and at the same time, I want an amendment that precludes a religious zealot in Kansas from having any say in whom I fuck or what I smoke.

S(Been a huge fan of coastal secession for years, but I happen to like Chicago, so I keep my mouth shut)D

[leagleaze]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sunnybunny

Originally posted by leagleaze
Try this instead [A whole lotta info about getting tickets]

Leagle, is Eagle Scout your sock, or your shorter Jewish twin brother?


~Sunny~

Why do you ask? I don't know anything about clothing sales in NYC.

As an aside, I came across an article in CNN about some men posing nude for a calendar to help their school. The thing is the men are like, really old. So I am wondering, who is buying this calendar?

[sunnybunny]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by leagleaze
Why do you ask? I don't know anything about clothing sales in NYC.

Because he generally has on hand an outrageous amount of random helpful information.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by sunnybunny
Because he generally has on hand an outrageous amount of random helpful information.

Oh, no, I just copied and pasted info I found. I can google an outrageous amount of random helpful information though.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I was two rows in front of a stupid drunk woman who yelled stuff at him for the first 10 minutes of the show until it became evident to her that she was about to be beat senseless by 15-20 people. WTF is with people who think anyone else wants to hear their witty repartee with the standups? Me no gettee.

Were you at the one where they threw money on stage? I wonder how he changes the act from show to show. Sometimes I think he just goes off on a tangent and just talks about stuff off the top of his head. But he's so good you can't tell.

The "racists aren't as polite as smokers" bit was the funniest part. "Do you mind if I'm racist in here? Oh. Okay. I'll just step outside for a bit of racism, then."

TM

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
[http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/magazine/12WWLN.html

I didn't read your article, but I recently read "Fat Land", which talks about the rise of high fructose corn syrup as a replacement for sugar and the farm policy in the 70s that encouraged this rise. Speaking just for myself, I hate high fructose corn syrup - it destroys the taste of food and you can't get away from it. It's in everything. You have to pay considerably more if you want say, bbq sauce made with sugar instead of it. Plus the corn syrup goes straight to your liver instead of being metabolized like sugar so it causes more damage to you than just making you fat. I am somewhat sympathetic to the argument that to a certain extent, being fat is a poverty issue - if you are poor, you are almost forced to eat this stuff rather than the stuff made with sugar, which does not do as much damage to your health.

[Lethal]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sunnybunny

Originally posted by leagleaze
Why do you ask? I don't know anything about clothing sales in NYC.

Because he generally has on hand an outrageous amount of random helpful information.

I don't like your tone young lady.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have less in copmmon will a guy in Missouri than I do with most Europeans.

Particularly in light of articles like this: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/13/in...13CHUR.html?hp . (Spree: Europeans becoming secular, Americans are really religious). The idea that American public policy is so clearly affected by religious dogma is horrifying to me--I know maybe one person who even goes to church at all, and they keep their yap shut about it to everyone else like most Europeans I know. And the level of nutbag apocalyptic proselytizing I've sometimes encountered in my US travels--and the number of people who really seem to believe the Earth is 5000 years old and the lie of evolution shouldn't be taught in school--is truly frightening. How the hell can I feel remotely connected to these folks (and vice-versa)?

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Why do you ask? I don't know anything about clothing sales in NYC.

As an aside, I came across an article in CNN about some men posing nude for a calendar to help their school. The thing is the men are like, really old. So I am wondering, who is buying this calendar?

Ummm...the same jailbait trophy wives in my hometown that marry these guys after they ditch their first wives?

[Watchtower]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Particularly in light of articles like this: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/13/in...13CHUR.html?hp . (Spree: Europeans becoming secular, Americans are really religious). The idea that American public policy is so clearly affected by religious dogma is horrifying to me--I know maybe one person who even goes to church at all, and they keep their yap shut about it to everyone else like most Europeans I know. And the level of nutbag apocalyptic proselytizing I've sometimes encountered in my US travels--and the number of people who really seem to believe the Earth is 5000 years old and the lie of evolution shouldn't be taught in school--is truly frightening. How the hell can I feel remotely connected to these folks (and vice-versa)?

You sound like you are truly frightened by religion. It is not that scary, and most of it occurs between consenting adults behind closed church (synagogue, mosque, etc.) doors.

But, yes, now and then we do like to hold hands in public.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have less in copmmon will a guy in Missouri than I do with most Europeans.

S(Been a huge fan of coastal secession for years, but I happen to like Chicago, so I keep my mouth shut)D

Actually, your position on coastal secession is one thing you would have in common with a lot of people from Missouri...

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Particularly in light of articles like this: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/13/in...13CHUR.html?hp . (Spree: Europeans becoming secular, Americans are really religious). The idea that American public policy is so clearly affected by religious dogma is horrifying to me--I know maybe one person who even goes to church at all, and they keep their yap shut about it to everyone else like most Europeans I know. And the level of nutbag apocalyptic proselytizing I've sometimes encountered in my US travels--and the number of people who really seem to believe the Earth is 5000 years old and the lie of evolution shouldn't be taught in school--is truly frightening. How the hell can I feel remotely connected to these folks (and vice-versa)?

My Lord, where do you thing religious dogma came from? If you are so sure that it didn't come from a booming voice in the sky (and I'd *generally* agree), then isn't it present by some sort of consent of the boundees? We are only governed and dogmatized by consent.

That said, I agree with the question "[h]ow the hell can I feel remotely connected to these folks", though the question could just as easily apply for other reasons to 95% of the U.S. population.

Hello

[Watchtower]

Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
Actually, your position on coastal secession is one thing you would have in common with a lot of people from Missouri...

I'm in upstate New York, which means I think Sebby and I can continue to coexist regardless of whether his succession plan works or not. I am looking forward to that, as I believe once we get to really talk, he will find he and I, like people everywhere, have a lot in common.