Politics: A new beginning - Page 157

Hank Chinaski · 12-05-2003, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Bilmore & Slave: To respond to bilmore's last PM, I think you both misapprehend the third part of Professor Ignatz's critique, at least with regard to the baroque pieces. If you consider the source cited in the footnote that Slave mentioned, I think you will see that he looked to both American and European archival materials, making his conclusions that much more sound.

gosh. I wonder if we'll get a googled response to this from someone?

Tyrone Slothrop · 12-05-2003, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I only had 100 level econ courses, but the unemployment rate going down is good news isn't it?

Not if you're not creating enough jobs to keep up with the growth in the labor force, and if unemployment is dropping only because people are becoming discouraged and not looking for work anymore. More.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 12-05-2003, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
I thought that was Bimore.

My thoughts exactly, Mr. P.

Hank Chinaski · 12-05-2003, 05:26 PM

the more I read about this guy, the scarier he gets.....

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Dean.......had never opined for a living and has no detectable sense of humor. Even worse is the fact that he is now exhibiting symptoms of a related illness, Murdoch Derangement Syndrome, in which otherwise normal people believe that their minds are being controlled by a clever Australian.

Chris Matthews: ``Would you break up Fox?''

Howard Dean: ``On ideological grounds, absolutely yes, but . . . I don't want to answer whether I would break up Fox or not. . . . What I'm going to do is appoint people to the FCC that believe democracy depends on getting information from all portions of the political spectrum, not just one.''

Some clinicians consider this delusion -- that Americans can get their news only from one part of the political spectrum -- the gravest of all. They report that no matter how many times sufferers in padded cells are presented with flash cards with the symbols ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, Time, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, L.A. Times -- they remain unresponsive, some in a terrifying near-catatonic torpor.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...printstory.jsp

Will some of you guys admit he is insane? Please?

Hank Chinaski · 12-05-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Not if you're not creating enough jobs to keep up with the growth in the labor force, and if unemployment is dropping only because people are becoming discouraged and not looking for work anymore. More.

For Econ 100 at enormous State U. we had to subscribe to the WSJ. is the Semi-Daily Journal of Bradford Delong more advanced reading, like in 300 level or something?

sgtclub · 12-05-2003, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Not if you're not creating enough jobs to keep up with the growth in the labor force, and if unemployment is dropping only because people are becoming discouraged and not looking for work anymore. More.

I have to agree with Ty on this one, but not for the reasons he suggests. This was dissappointing news because the market had expected the unemployment numbers to be much higher and there was anticipation that it would push the Dow above 10,000. As of last check, Dow was down 70 points.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 12-05-2003, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I have to agree with Ty on this one, but not for the reasons he suggests. This was dissappointing news because the market had expected the unemployment numbers to be much higher and there was anticipation that it would push the Dow above 10,000. As of last check, Dow was down 70 points.

BUY!

Hank Chinaski · 12-05-2003, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I have to agree with Ty on this one, but not for the reasons he suggests. This was dissappointing news because the market had expected the unemployment numbers to be much higher and there was anticipation that it would push the Dow above 10,000. As of last check, Dow was down 70 points.

okay, maybe i lost 1, but its just one month.

We all agree Dean is nuts?

bilmore · 12-05-2003, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
Don't you think it is different when you see your dad peeing than when you see some strange man peeing?

You never knew Dad. These are not necessarily mutually exclusive situations.

bilmore · 12-05-2003, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Bilmore & Slave: To respond to bilmore's last PM, I think you both misapprehend the third part of Professor Ignatz's critique, at least with regard to the baroque pieces.

Sorry, I thought I covered this last night, to wit: If it ain't baroque, don't Fisk it.

Not Me · 12-05-2003, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
We all agree Dean is nuts?

I am with you on that one.

bilmore · 12-05-2003, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
That would make sense. He knew all of those guys back in the day.

It's sad to see your contemporaries squabble like that.

(P.S. No, I don't sock.)

bilmore · 12-05-2003, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Not if you're not creating enough jobs to keep up with the growth in the labor force, and if unemployment is dropping only because people are becoming discouraged and not looking for work anymore. More.

Translation: Not NOW, it's not a good thing.

The Larry Davis Experience · 12-05-2003, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Chris Matthews: ``Would you break up Fox?''

Howard Dean: ``On ideological grounds, absolutely yes, but . . . I don't want to answer whether I would break up Fox or not. . . . What I'm going to do is appoint people to the FCC that believe democracy depends on getting information from all portions of the political spectrum, not just one.''

Will some of you guys admit he is insane? Please?

FYI, here's the actual Matthews/Dean transcript:

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MATTHEWS: No, seriously. As a public policy, would you bring industrial policy to bear and break up these conglomerations of power?
DEAN: I don’t want to answer whether I would break up Fox or not,
because, obviously
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: Well, how about large media enterprises?
DEAN: Let me-yes, let me get...
(LAUGHTER)
DEAN: The answer to that is yes.
I would say that there is too much penetration by single corporations in media markets all over this country. We need locally-owned radio stations. There are only two or three radio stations left in the state of Vermont where you can get local news anymore. The rest of it is read and ripped from the AP.
MATTHEWS: So what are you going to do about it? You’re going to be president of the United States, what are you going to do?
DEAN: What I’m going to do is appoint people to the FCC that believe democracy depends on getting information from all portions of the political spectrum, not just one.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/1000254.asp

Why is this crazy? Didn't Congress just overrule the FCC's rollback of the media ownership regs?

Tyrone Slothrop · 12-05-2003, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I have to agree with Ty on this one, but not for the reasons he suggests. This was dissappointing news because the market had expected the unemployment numbers to be much higher and there was anticipation that it would push the Dow above 10,000. As of last check, Dow was down 70 points.

Like a good Democrat, I said it was bad news because we didn't create enough jobs to keep pace with population growth.

Like a good Republican, sgtclub said it was bad because the market reacted poorly. Res ipsa loquitur.