Fashion Board 3-5-04 to 4-6-04

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone


On a related note, anybody check out Rolling Stone's "Immortals?" An interesting top 50 list. Post-punk is underrepresented (still no Pixies, 'Mats, Husker Du, Sonic Youth). Probably hip-hop, too (nothing but Public Enemy and Run DMC). You can only read the artis-written intros for the fist 10. The choice of artist writing the intro is telling (e.g., James Taylor writing for Simon and Garfunkle makes it even easier to discount that entry).

No Willie Nelson? He's immortal.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I know, it's shitty MSNBC, but I thought it was still worth the link (10 Best Rock Bands Ever):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4595384/

I love Bob Marley, but I'm not sure he and The Wailers were a "rock band". And Pink Floyd was fun in high school, but didn't make it past my freshman year of college.

Edited to add that I would have put the Allman Brothers on this list.

1. The Beatles (I don't care for them, but its true)
1. The Stones (The Beatles made you think and were the gold standard of songwriting; the Stones had the groove and made you want to fuck, fight and get fucked up, the two main roots of rock from which all is derivative).
2. Velvets (if you don't like this band, you have shit for brains)
3. Dylan (rock's Frank Sinatra, with lyrics they are simply unreal - Visions of Johanna, Idiot Wind)
3. Grateful Dead (timeless songs that'll be around in 2090)
4. Hendrix (If you own Axis, you understand)
5. Led Zeppelin (bloated, and just as much bad stuff as good, but when they were on, nobody was better... How Many More Times)
6. Janes Addiction (if you've seen em live, you know why, plus nobody's ever been able to replicate their sound)
7. Neil Young (a trippy California Dylan who digs heavy metal feedback, his catalog will be around in 2090)
8. AC/DC (stupid, but infectious, 30 years of three chords, better than the goddamned Ramones, but their new shit stinks)
9. The Who (Who's Next alone puts them on this list)
10. Black Sabbath (These guys invented all the heavy shit you've ever heard, and were better at it than 90% of the crap on the radio today)

I don't include rap because I have a separate list for rap. I don't include reggae because I don't care for it and its not rock, even if I think Redemption Song is the greatest thing ever written. I don't include soul because soul is soul, not rock. If this were a soul list, Otis Redding would be on it.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Until you've stared at woodgrain for three hours listening to Riders on the Storm over and over, you won't really understand.

I'm going to have to add this to the list of Things I'll Never Really Understand. I'll put it right below how anti-perspirant works, and right above Gilbert Godfried.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Maybe this is my boring suburban alcohol-only lifestyle talking, but the Doors suck. I'll amend that: Jim Morrison sucks. I've got nothing against a good art-rock electric organ solo, but Morrison's "poetry" is easily outclassed by any 15-year-old girl with tortoiseshell glasses and a notepad. He makes Jewel sound deep. "Ghost Song" is just embarrassing. The reason Coppola used them for the AN soundtrack is that by the end of it, you wanted to see an airstrike.

I don't think you're that regular.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
What does TiVo have that the dvr from say comcast doesnt?

Customer service
Knowledgeable professionals
Cute little logo

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Maybe this is my boring suburban alcohol-only lifestyle talking, but the Doors suck. I'll amend that: Jim Morrison sucks. I've got nothing against a good art-rock electric organ solo, but Morrison's "poetry" is easily outclassed by any 15-year-old girl with tortoiseshell glasses and a notepad. He makes Jewel sound deep. "Ghost Song" is just embarrassing. The reason Coppola used them for the AN soundtrack is that by the end of it, you wanted to see an airstrike.

Agree. The Doors suck. Morrison thought he was a genuis. He wasn't.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Who knew this topic would inspire me to state strongly-held opinions as if they were objective facts?

Easy. It's music.

Music is the only topic in which the kabuki dance stops, and I can read your posts and feel relatively comfortable that they're straightforward and the opinions are sincerely held.

With almost all of your other posts, I can feel at least a slight tug at the cuffs of my (usually) non-plaid pants. It might be a serious post, it might not, often it's not easy to tell, and odds are that a posted response will reveal that I chose poorly.

(NTTAWWT, of course.)

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
No Willie Nelson? He's immortal.

Indeed. Only Johnny Cash for the genuflection to country influence.

And Grandmaster Flash belongs there (sorry if I'm getting repetitious). Without Flash, music stops in the early 80s.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Until you've stared at woodgrain for three hours listening to Riders on the Storm over and over, you won't really understand.

Staring at woodgrain. That's three hours of my life I'd never get back. I think I'd prefer not to understand.

If I'm going to take drugs, I'd like to have fun, not stare at the floor.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Maybe this is my boring suburban alcohol-only lifestyle talking, but the Doors suck. I'll amend that: Jim Morrison sucks. I've got nothing against a good art-rock electric organ solo, but Morrison's "poetry" is easily outclassed by any 15-year-old girl with tortoiseshell glasses and a notepad. He makes Jewel sound deep. "Ghost Song" is just embarrassing. The reason Coppola used them for the AN soundtrack is that by the end of it, you wanted to see an airstrike.

The Doors have some great moments, but Morrison was embarrassing. "The End," however, is a great tune.

The Doors are great when you're 18 walking through the academic quad on House Party Weekend with a head full of chemicals, beer in one hand, frisbee in the other, and you hear something trippy like "love Street" float out of a dorm window and think "Ah, pretty... so pretty." Their first record was also great for late night fiascos where you feel your pulse in your head and wish the sun wouldn't come up again. Hearing the Doors now just reinforces the distance you feel from those days. The Doors are too much... like Floyd's The Wall. You just can't listen to it with adult ears.

[dtb]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield [List of Rock Bands]

Keep in mind, I am the one who asked my husband who Robert Plant is (I have never seen him look so astonished -- I think what was going through his head was "who IS this person?"). So, I saw the movie "School of Rock" this weekend, which I thought was really cute/funny, but the important thing is that there were actually a few songs there that I liked.

The kid who played the drums was fantastic (musically, I mean.)

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Staring at woodgrain. That's three hours of my life I'd never get back. I think I'd prefer not to understand.

If I'm going to take drugs, I'd like to have fun, not stare at the floor.

Kids today.

It's all "X" and having fun and the like. Light and airy and happy.

Whatever happened to the good old days of ponderous truths revealed to the select button eaters?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Yeh, well, I pretty much agree with all of this, and already said so, but want to keep fighting, so maybe you should listen to some of that Doors stuff again instead of just watching a movie. Until you've stared at woodgrain for three hours listening to Riders on the Storm over and over, you won't really understand.

"Best Bands to Listen to While Stoned" is another list entirely.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Staring at woodgrain. That's three hours of my life I'd never get back. I think I'd prefer not to understand.

If I'm going to take drugs, I'd like to have fun, not stare at the floor.

I wouldn't listen to Riders on acid either. Doesn't work.

Pot

Allmans
Everything

Coke

Steely Dan
Allmans
Stones
Kinks
Janes
Zeppelin
Sex Pistols
Crowes
Velvets
Velvets
Velvets

Acid/Mushrooms

Dead
Allmans
Traffic
Beatles

X

Beasties
Chronic 2000
Any fast Metal/Rap/Punk/Hard rock

[Atticus Grinch]

Apparently MTV has a project called "Album Covers" in which they ask current bands to cover an entire classic album. So far, they've had Dashboard Confessional (ick) cover REM's "Automatic for the People (1992)" with Michael Stipe sitting in, and they had Guster (yay)* cover "Violent Femmes (1982)" with Gordon Gano and Brian Ritchie sitting in. The results are apparently on an MTV2 show and are available for purchase on iTunes.

Your poll, should you choose to accept it: Have a presently performing band cover a classic album of your choice.

This shows a shocking lack of imagination, but I would like to hear The Darkness cover "Frampton Comes Alive." I may think of others as the day progresses.

*I have loved Guster since they pranked the entire community of KaZaa users by releasing the "Meow Mix," a fake version of their album to deter piracy of the real release. The lyrics were all substituted by a guy singing "meow" over and over again.