Politics: J'accuse!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Mark Kleiman posts some interesting and obviously well-informed musings about how profoundly misguided that planning for the occupation was. If I've got the math right, this suggests that we needed four times as many troops on the ground than we've had.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
That's sort of the point. Let them decide; I suspect they'd overwhelmingly choose to keep US troops in, and that would provide a perfect retort to complaints in the future.

Either that, or we'd bring 50,000 troops home. Win-win.



As for the Sopranos, it was a caricature, yes, but I agree that the discussion of the Korean (immigrant?) work ethic was interesting. I doubt that that individual's daughter would be a failed physical therapist, though. More likely a doc with a degree from Harvard.*


*I say this not to stereotype, but out of true and deep respect for the accomplishments of Korean families that I've known, where parents work incredibly hard to build low-end service businesses -- laundries, grocery shops, etc -- and children go on to the top college and professional schools.

Again with the Italian hate? and to double it with no
korean children can fail in life? You don't realize that is a hateful caricarture, do you?You are one dumb guy.

On the other hand, you've stopped with the parentheticals, so you're apparently tainable.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Again with the Italian hate? and to double it with no
korean children can fail in life? You don't realize that is a hateful caricarture, do you?You are one dumb guy.

1. I'm Italian, you stupid fuck. Watching a TV show does not constitute Italian hate. Or are you suggesting that the Mafia never existed?

2. I did not suggest that no Korean children can fail in life, you stupid fuck. I specifically referenced only the child of the individual on the program last night. That particular individual is so driven that it is far more likely that his child would be a success than a failure.


Go fuck yourself, you racist piece of shit. Better yet, get back to your threesome with Not Me and Ann Coulter.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
1. I'm Italian, you stupid fuck. Watching a TV show does not constitute Italian hate. Or are you suggesting that the Mafia never existed?

2. I did not suggest that no Korean children can fail in life, you stupid fuck. I specifically referenced only the child of the individual on the program last night. That particular individual is so driven that it is far more likely that his child would be a success than a failure.

Go fuck yourself, you racist piece of shit. Better yet, get back to your threesome with Not Me and Ann Coulter.

I am picking up on the sexual tension in this post. I conclude that you are a gay, and therefore that you support polygamy.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
1. I'm Italian, you stupid fuck.

Which cast member of the Sopranos do you look like (if any)?

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Go fuck yourself, you racist piece of shit. Better yet, get back to your threesome with Not Me and Ann Coulter.

I think you want Hank badly, too. You are probably fantasizing about a threesome with me and Hank right now.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
I am picking up on the sexual tension in this post. I conclude that you are a gay, and therefore that you support polygamy.

I'm thinking that a relationship with Flu....um, Hank would by definition be polygamy.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Not Me
I think you want Hank badly, too. You are probably fantasizing about a threesome with me and Hank right now.

Scroll then post, dearie. Ty beat you to it again.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
2. I did not suggest that no Korean children can fail in life, you stupid fuck. I specifically referenced only the child of the individual on the program last night. That particular individual is so driven that it is far more likely that his child would be a success than a failure.


Go fuck yourself, you racist piece of shit. Better yet, get back to your threesome with Not Me and Ann Coulter.

um, you said:

*I say this not to stereotype, but out of true and deep respect for the accomplishments of Korean families that I've known, where parents work incredibly hard to build low-end service businesses -- laundries, grocery shops, etc -- and children go on to the top college and professional schools

One angry plank of racism is to believe things about a whole group based upon sterotypes. Why should a korean child who worked in something short of the degreed world you find "sucessful" be labeled a failure because of yuor adled "deep respect."
You know little about me, certainly not enough to call me racist. The one thing we can say for sure is that I'm wittier than you. Last week, someone teed up the Godfather quote about "being in business with his father." You and i posted at about the same time. You posted the obvious, I posted the clever.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Not Me
Which cast member of the Sopranos do you look like (if any)?

none. He looks like Fredo.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Scroll then post, dearie.

Sending big smooches your way. Muwaah!:wink: :kiss:

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Why should a korean child who worked in something short of the degreed world you find "sucessful" be labeled a failure because of yuor adled "deep respect."

Did you watch the show that we are talking about, you stupid fuck? The child in question had briefly been a physical therapist, quit that, didn't have a job, and was lined up to be a receptionist in the massage center that her father was going to open with an ex-con.

To most people, that does not scream success.

You know little about me, certainly not enough to call me racist.

Right. All my non-racist acquaintances use the term "towel-head". You stupid racist fuck.

The one thing we can say for sure is that I'm wittier than you. Last week, someone teed up the Godfather quote about "being in business with his father." You and i posted at about the same time. You posted the obvious, I posted the clever.

No idea what you're talking about, although of course your judgment is beyond reproach, you stupid psychotic racist piece of shit.

But query this: You remember my posts from a week ago. You remember exchanges that Flu...um, you and I had a year ago. And you think it's me that's obsessed with you? Go home already, you stupid, delusional, psychotic racist piece of shit.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
you stupid fuck?

You stupid racist fuck.

you stupid psychotic racist piece of shit.

Go home already, you stupid, delusional, psychotic racist piece of shit.

I notice a theme developing, but I can't quite put my finger on it . . .

[Not Me]

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/po...3ff212&ei=5062

Why is Gorelick on this panel?!?!? Hardly unbiased.

I would say the Patriot Act has a good chance of being renewed.

Mr. Ashcroft said that to the contrary, he personally went to the national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, on March 7, 2001, and urged her to scuttle what he characterized as an ineffective policy of the Clinton administration specifying that Mr. bin Laden had to be captured, and only in a way that lawyers would approve.

"Even if they could have penetrated bin Laden's training camp, they would have needed a battery of attorneys to approve the capture," Mr. Ashcroft said sarcastically.

Mr. Ashcroft said that he wanted "decisive, lethal action" and had told Ms. Rice, "We should find and kill bin Laden."

The attorney general sounded almost contemptuous as he spoke of a "legal wall" put into effect in 1995 to separate criminal investigators from intelligence agents in an effort to safeguard individual rights.

Far from protecting individual rights, Mr. Ashcroft asserted, the wall has been an obstacle to protecting the American people.

Referring to the 1995 document that constructed the figurative wall, Mr. Ashcroft went on to say, "Full disclosure compels me to inform you that the author of this memorandum is a member of the commission."

Mr. Ashcroft was a referring to Jamie Gorelick, a Democratic member of the independent, bipartisan, 10-member commission, who was deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration.

Under questioning, Mr. Ashcroft said he differed with former Attorney General Janet Reno, who testified earlier today that the so-called wall did not, in fact, bar the sharing "the vast majority of counterterrorism information."

"No," Mr. Ashcroft said firmly. "I believe that the understanding of the wall that was prevalent in the Justice Department and among attorneys was that individuals who shared information from a criminal file or from an intelligence file to a criminal file might be subject to serious discipline."

Eventually, court rulings and the passage of the "Patriot Act" in 2001, after Sept. 11, effectively lowered the wall — but that was too late, Mr. Ashcroft said.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Did you watch the show that we are talking about, you stupid fuck? The child in question had briefly been a physical therapist, quit that, didn't have a job, and was lined up to be a receptionist in the massage center that her father was going to open with an ex-con.

To most people, that does not scream success.

A Korean child can't have the time to find herself, because of your sterotyping?

Right. All my non-racist acquaintances use the term "towel-head". You stupid racist fuck.

Neither did I.

No idea what you're talking about, although of course your judgment is beyond reproach, you stupid psychotic racist piece of shit.

But query this: You remember my posts from a week ago. You remember exchanges that Flu...um, you and I had a year ago. And you think it's me that's obsessed with you? Go home already, you stupid, delusional, psychotic racist piece of shit.

I remember the posts from a week ago, because you had been explaining how unfunny I was, then you dropped the turd. i remeber from a year ago because it was, as I said last week, the single stupidest thing I'd seen any one do.

Oh, and calling me a name, over and over, is effiminate.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
A Korean child can't have the time to find herself, because of your sterotyping?

Please. You are beyond absurd.

If you think "finding yourself" is a mark of success, great. Go do that.


No doubt, you will hold this exchange dear to your heart as well. Would you like me to send you some dirty underwear for your stalker-wall, freak?